Are non-english language threads or sub forums a good idea for the european section?

No it is not. It is international.

Ask Rob Lay if he wants to limit the site to the US, or if he wants it to be precieved as a global Ferrari site.

 

You are using this argument to point out that the language on Fchat should exclusively be English. That it is a different argument than saying that Fchat as a legal and economic entity is American. Of course it is an American entity, but that in itself is no argument for the proposition that the language should exclusively be in English.

Simple proof for the contrary lies in the fact that Rob Lay himself has opened up the Belgian/Dutch subforum. So apperantly Rob Lay himself doesn´t agree with your statement that the language on Fchat should exclusively be in English.

So that pretty much makes this whole discussion pretty obsolete, no?

 

and the story continious. If I look at the poll, the Dutch subthread and the language threads don't have to worry. Well cool; than that's settled? Right?
What I don't like is that I got some e-mails about this poll. That I was instructed to do so by somebody else?

I mean; WFT? I know that a moderator on this site has something to do with those rumours and I just think it's stupid... what do people think?

you know; I'm already sorry that I had the guts to make a poll instead of not coming here again or talk about it in several other threads.
For years I come here at this site, I've met lots of people from several different nationalities, we shared some great thinges together, went to Germany, Belgium, Italia on events... but now?

Just a handful of people destroying a great forum, a great community. I say; thank you!

 

I hope you don't mean me. Be careful what you say. I received the same emails mister, you've made yourself very popular obviously.

 

Ah, I forgot it... (edited) This man is accusing me for no reason and that's not so nice. I think it is a good moment to close the thread, it's going the wrong direction.

 

Just the same way as we do not all agree with you Marnix, we do not have to agree with all the things Rob Lay comes up with, or sometimes does not come up with!!!
I have excactly the same oppinion as many others......we are all guests at an American website/forum which is meant for every nation on the planet, but still we are all visitors though, and as such we should act like visitors and repect the fact that most users on this site are writing/reading in English which is the native language in the US.......writing in other languages is in my oppinion disrespectful, just as stated by Eugenio! Sorry, that's the way I was raised(And that is not meant as an excuse for me!)Unfortunately I know that many kids of later generations was not raised to respect anything or anybody at all, in the same way as I was!!!

 

Carsten, good afternoon.

What could be the best solution to stop this long thread which makes everybody exited ?
I think this site has one owner and we have to follow and respect his rules as we are all a guest on his site as our friend Wolfgang quoted also.

So, I sent Rob Lay a message and I hope he finds the time to give a small and final reaction here.

 

I don't believe there is any reason to close this thread.
It will run its course. However, there is also no reason to open new ones on the same subject.

 

You are welcome to go ahead and keep yourself busy with Ferrari!
Some of us are just discussing the fact that we are sad that what this place used to be has been destroyed by others, and by ourselves!!
You don't need to bother at all, this is not anything dangerous at all.......let me explain to you:
You see, just as in the old days we are only having a nice discussion with some other people(Some of us are even friends since many years!!!!) from across our borders, and we don't want that to be ruined again now!!! People are in fact interacting here.......see??

 

Why stop it???? Isn't excited a "great" word????
As I just wrote before, we do not need to carry the same opinion in questions like these!
"If you don't like the content in threads like this, then you are not forced to go back here again"........that is the answer we get if complaining over the Language subforums and threads......well, the same goes for you Henkie, If you dont like this thread, then why read or even post in it???

 

Como decimos en España......que mal rollito.....

Nice to "see" you again Wolf....

 

Well Carsten, the thread is called "is the subforum Dutch / Belgium ok, or should it go?"
As I am quite familiar with the dutch forum I thought it was quite handy to follow it. But when people accuse me I get indeed "exited".

But hey, you're right. I'd better leave this thread where it is.
Peace and harmony, and I love you all

 

I could rename the thread if people wish. The way I see it is that this is not against the dutch subforum but against non english threads/forums in general. The dutch subforum is chosen as an example as it is the largest non-english group within the euro section.

If people wish to discuss the english/non-english theme that is fine with me. This is not an anti-dutch thread.

Cheers
Simon


Edit Thread title changed

 

If opinions aren't welcome, it's a common method to suppress them by closing a thread.
Gladly they pop up in a new one.


O.k, some guys might argue, all this was already discussed a year ago, but
in 2005 there was no bad experience with all these language threads making Europe to explode.
Now we are atomized.

Above was mentioned, the poll result seems to show the new language threads settled.
What I fear is: The majority is no longer reading the Europe section.
They don't vote at all.
Many left this platform - for reasons we discuss here today.

Second: most possible answers given to click are nonsense and making fun of this issue in order to split the critical votes.

cinque

 

@Henkie,

Waldo did not do anything in here to make himself popular, except the fact that he carry the same kind of respect for other people as they carry for him.....owners or non-owners like myself! "if you respect other people and treat them nice, other people will respect you and treat you nice back"... that is the saying from my childhood which has given me friends from all arround the globe, from all layers of the society, and nothing nor nobody has ever proven this saying to be wrong for me!!! Treat people like SH*T and they will wipe your arse! Treat poeple nice, and they will treat you nice back!!!

 

Merged...

 

This analogy simply doesn´t hold up. What if people don´t feel the need to interact with the locals? It is not mandatory in any way to interact with the locals.

 

You are missing the point. The fact is that Rob Lay owns this place. He can do with it what he wants to. He can pull the plug in the next hour and you wouldn´t have any ground to force him to put the plug back in. So, since Rob Lay organized the Dutch/Belgian subforum, this whole discussion is pointless. Sure, you can have your complaints about it, but your complaints have been heard and are known. So what´s next? You can repeat yourself over and over again, but what does that bring us? Exactly, nowhere.

Now you are just forcing your own moral standars upon others. Talk about disrespectful.

And yes, I am offended by the notion that people who limit themselves to participating on the Dutch/Belgian subforum are lacking in respect for others. The mere fact that people obviously don´t feel the need to interact on a global, international scale, doesn´t make them lesser human beings, nor is there any reason to suggest they have lower morals than those who do feel that need.