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Are cuoio and natural the same?

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  1. code red

    code red Karting

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    I've seen "natural" mentioned as a leather choice in many posts but I don't see it listed as an option on the 430. The only members of the tan family are crema, sabbia, beige and cuoio. Are cuoio and natural the same color? And what the heck is "carta da zucchero?"
     
  2. jtremlett

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    Yes, Cuoio and natural (dark tan) are used interchangeably. Carta di Zucchero (Sugar bag) is blue. Don't ask me why, but I'm sure someone with a greater knowledge of the sugar industry will be able to tell you!

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  3. tedwentz

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    Cuoio and Natrual are not the same. Natrual is the very light tan that you see in all of the factory promo shots on the red cars. Cuoio is a darker more caramel like color. FWIW I've got Cuoio on my Rosso Corsa car and it looks really nice. They are both great colors, be sure to see them in the Flesh before you order.
     
  4. code red

    code red Karting

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    Now I'm confused. Natural isn't even listed as a choice on the 430 spec sheet, nor is tan. The choices are crema (almost white) sabbia (light sand), beige (I presume this is what most people refer to as tan) and cuoio (chestnut).
     
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    I thought that up until 2003 or 2004, Ferrari's "Natural" was more of a saddle, or basketball color and the Cuoio was a chestnut as the pictures above showed. I have been told that the true "Natural" was dropped and Cuoio was then called "Natural" in the newer cars. I'm looking for some older (99-01) "Natural" interiors to show this, because the Pozzi blue/Natural '99 I had a long time back did not look at all like the Cuoio shown above, it had much more of an orange tint to it.
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  12. rossi

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    That's a very classy combination!
     
  13. MikeS

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    Got my 430 one month ago, Cuoio interior. Window sticker says Natural. My '04 360 coupe was the same designation. They are the same color.
     
  14. WCH

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    So many opinions, so few facts.

    I can scan and post my sticker if you'd like - my '05 F430 is nero/natural, natural is a darker tan or beige:
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    from my previous post.
    It appears that Cuoio and Natrual are indeed used interchangably on the F430. When I ordered my car the copy of the VOM order reads Cuoio 4609 for the Interni (interior).
    However the window sticker which I just checked reads Natural for the interior.
    Could be an FNA thing.
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  16. code red

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    Will, yes please post your sticker. Thanks.
     
  17. WCH

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    Here it is. I'd always assumed natural is darker than cuoio. Anyway, I specified natural when I ordered, as I wanted the darker color.
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  18. TexasMike

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    I would assume it is a FNA thing. They also call the Challenge Stradale a "360 Challenge Stradale" and the factory just calls it a "Challenge Stradale".
     
  19. TexasMike

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    I belive all the post I made in this thread are correct.
    Are you referring to any of my "opinions".
     
  20. WCH

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    Mike - Very poorly expressed observation, not intended as a criticism of you or anyone else. After all these years of email and internet use, I still haven't learned to be careful about how I express things in the absence of nonverbal cues. It often seems that four F car owners or fans will have 5 passionately held opinions.

    Second try - I think a lot of this is confusing because - it seems to me at least - it's a bit of a mistake to think of some of these features as "options." Ferrari impresses me as being much more of a bespoke maker than many assume. I don't think the interior color palette is unlimited - but perhaps it is.

    Also, if people would post pics of the interior color plus the accompanying "sticker," it might clear things up a bit.
    Of course, digital pics can be misleading when it comes to colors. And - who generates the stickers?

    I had an '03 575M with a relatively light beige or tan interior; I believe the sticker called it "cuoio," but I no longer have either car or documentation.
     
  21. TexasMike

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    I understand. Unfortunately or fortunately, most Ferraris I see are on the road or in public, not at the dealership. Therefor I rarely ever see "window stickers" on Ferraris. I wish I had that kind of documentation with ever photo I took. Also it all depends on the light, angle and quality of camera used.
    A Ferrari owner who has owned 27 Ferrari told me that the Argento F430 (Above) has Cuoio interior. I tend to believe someone with that kind of Ferrari knowledge and experience.

    I don't believe that FNA always gets their info correct. I wish the cars had a code or number somewhere on the car that told what color the interior was from the factory. To the best of my knowledge Ferraris don't have anything like that, but I could be wrong.
     
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