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Anyone familiar with CA Historic Plate registration process?

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  1. IMAGINETHAT

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    My primary concern is smogging every 2 years. Saving a few bucks is nice but not my main concern.

    Anybody else have input on the smog aspect ? Never again or every 2 years with no benefit ?
     
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  3. yelcab

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    Every two years smog is required, and restricted use of the car.
     
  4. HMB-Dino

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    You have to renew registeration your car EVERY year regardless of whether or not it has historic plates. I have 2 classics with historic plates (a 1955 MB and a 1957 BMW) and 2 with regular plates (because I want to drive them anytime). For the vehicles with historic plates, its $101/yr to renew; $89 is the reg fee, $2 is the VLF and at least I have $10 County/District fee. I have the renewals for all of these which are due in Aug.
     
  5. plastique999

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    Here in CA, in process of historic plates for 1992 car, still had to smog.
    To be smog exempt, was told has to be over 30 years old ....


    Sent from my 16M
     
  6. HMB-Dino

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    Specific smog exemptions from CA DMV site...

    Your vehicle does not need a smog inspection if your:
    • Gasoline-powered vehicle is a 1975 year model or older (This includes motorcycles and trailers.)
    • Diesel-powered vehicle is a 1997 and older year model OR with a Gross Vehicle Weight of more than 14,000 pounds.
    • Powered by natural gas and weighs more than 14,000 pounds.
    • An electric vehicle.
    • Gasoline-powered and less than four model years old.
     
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  8. yelcab

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    over 25 years old ...
     
  9. HMB-Dino

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    Your response directly contradicts what the DMV site says, as indicated in my last post
     
  10. yelcab

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    Unless they changed it in the last 3 months, I just applied for one. Here is the California vehicle code section (the Law)

    ARTICLE 8. Special Plates [5000 - 5024]
    ( Article 8 enacted by Stats. 1959, Ch. 3. )

    5004.
    (a) Notwithstanding any other provision of this code, any owner of a vehicle described in paragraph (1), (2), or (3) which is operated or moved over the highway primarily for the purpose of historical exhibition or other similar purpose shall, upon application in the manner and at the time prescribed by the department, be issued special identification plates for the vehicle:

    (1) A motor vehicle with an engine of 16 or more cylinders manufactured prior to 1965.

    (2) A motor vehicle manufactured in the year 1922 or prior thereto.

    (3) A vehicle which was manufactured after 1922, is at least 25 years old, and is of historic interest.

    (b) The special identification plates assigned to motor vehicles with an engine of 16 or more cylinders manufactured prior to 1965 and to any motor vehicle manufactured in the year 1922 and prior thereto shall run in a separate numerical series, commencing with “Horseless Carriage No. 1”.

    The special identification plates assigned to vehicles specified in paragraph (3) of subdivision (a) shall run in a separate numerical series, commencing with “Historical Vehicle No. 1”.

    Each series of plates shall have different and distinguishing colors.
     
  11. HMB-Dino

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    Your last post is regarding what qualifies for historic plates.

    My post about pre-1975 cars was only regarding what is exempt from having a smog test per the DMV.
     
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  13. yelcab

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    Not true either. My 1989 just had to go through smog testing this year, even though it has a Historical License Plate. That loop hole was closed a few years ago.
     
  14. HMB-Dino

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    What am I missing here? DMV site says vehicles prior to 1975 are exempt from smog test...therefore anything after that, including your 1989, require a smog test. The historic plates have nothing to do with smog/no smog requirement. It's all about the model year.

    Note that my experience with historic plates is over the last 4yrs, and both my historic plate cars are pre-1975.
     
  15. plastique999

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    I’m not sure why they told me this ....they still made me smog it ....


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  16. 308Dadoo

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    My understanding is that many guys with cars beyond 1975 were getting the Historic Plates thinking that it excluded them from the smog requirements. Turns out our great electronic DMV system was not requiring them to smog their post 75 cars to renew the registration if you paid it online. However I heard that you would get the smog requirement slapped on you if you physically went in to pay your registration. Ca Dmv has finally caught up with them and now no new tags without going to smog your car if it is 1976 and newer. The Governator changed the laws back when he was in office which had a rolling 30 years requirement for smog. It was changed to 1975 as the cutoff. Lots of California FChatters are going back to their old plates free of the historic plates restrictions.

    I never did it because I wanted to keep my California Sunset Plates which are rare. My cars passes smog no problem anyway.
     
  17. HMB-Dino

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    I think the main reason people go the historic plates approach is because it saves a bundle in reg fees. I know it saves me multiple thousands every year for my BMW, which happens to meet all of the historic plates criteria, including minimal usage.
     
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  18. 2dinos

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    1975 & older -> No SMOG test
    1976 & newer -> Must get SMOG test
    I've seen the 25 year age proposed many times but never seemed to catch on.

    Biggest gripe is the car sits under a car cover most of its life. When a SMOG is due, it gets driven just for the test. Now with Covid-19 numbers going way up, driving is further reduced, and taking the car in for a SMOG (which is a very social event as SMOG tech has been in a dozen other vehicles right before hopping into your car), it's a more begrudging task.

    It would be nice especially during these times if the test could be performed like other states do with a drive through approach. Safer for everyone.
     
  19. EP328

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    A rural county, such as Plumas County, only requires smog check on title change / sale. No Bi-annual smog checks required!
     
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  20. 2dinos

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    That's awesome! If you live in city areas, CA invokes the "Enhanced" treatment.
     

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