Allocation, build, delivery -- clarification on time frame

I paid deposit and want my delivery 1st march so i can get a 14 plate in england. Could have had it earlier but its winter here nearly so will wait till march. They said they i have finalize my order in december and they will start production in january so the car will be here sometime in feb ready for march. Can't wait

 

My experience was a little more than 6 months. US delivery.

 

I contacted dealer in U.S. who I buy my cars from and he said he needs as many confirmed orders as possible to boost allocation and timeline. Nothing definite yet. Best

 

Ky1e sorry to hear about your troubles especially when looking for 2 purchases. I called the dealer in May 2013 as a first time Ferrari buyer and asked for a September allocation. I was offered sooner but wanted the build to be after the August shutdown. They were able to get it as they said and it is on the water now to be delivered next month. If you are not locked in proximity wise to one dealer there are others who might assist you better. Good luck with your efforts, I am sure you will find them worth it when you take delivery!

 

Kyle, I'm getting my car from the same dealer as you. Which cars were you ordering and when did you give them the deposit?

 

To answer your initial question specifically, I received an October 2012 build date for my spider in July of 2012. The car was delivered January 7, 2013. The Christmas holidays and hurricane Sandy caused some delay in my case. Typically however, slots are given by Ferrari 3 months in advance. So 3 months in advance for slot and then 3 more months for build and delivery in 6 months is therefore typical. I do know that Ferrari has been VERY stingy with 458 coupe slots. My dealer went 4 months without one. Some customers were thinking of burning the place down thinking they were being "jumped" by others. Not saying anything about FoTB specifically. I am merely telling you that allotments and dealer info is frequently nebulous for unforeseen circumstances.
Sorry for your nightmare.
Best, Randy

 

I should have been more specific. I wanted an Italia not a Spider so that's what I ordered. Out of curiosity I asked how long it would be for a Spider allocation and was told 1 1/2 year wait, so not too much different than your scenario. I asked about the Speciale and only got a chuckle so meaning not a chance....so I just asked to go ahead and be placed on the 458 replacement list.

 

so it goes allocation than build than delivery. I thought allocation meant they build it that month? Am I wrong?

 

Nov allocation, Jan build, end of Feb delivery....3 1/2 months

 

458 Italia:
May 2013 - Deposit

June 2013 - Dealer negotiates HARD and receives a 458 allocation (was told they had to trade a couple of California allocations for a 458 allocation)

July 2013 - Status Red 10 (Begins Build Process)

September 2013 - 458 on the Atlantic in transit for delivery (Status 90)

October 2013 / November 2013 - Projected Delivery to Dealership

 

I placed my $20k deposit on 02/24/12 in person at the dealership. It looks like your deposit was finally furnished by you a year after mine. Getting a 458 spider in less than two years is considered quick (my expected delivery early Dec 2013). At the time I placed my order NY dealers were quoting my NY friend a 4 year wait. Ferrari is indifferent to selling you a 458 SP because it is worth more than they are selling it for at delivery and they have a two year or longer wait list. Think about this. It is like they are doing you the favor. It does make for an odd experience.

At McLaren you can pay $300,000 for a car and get it quickly. It is instantly worth $75,000 less. They need you. They need to "sell" you the car. The Ferrari sells itself.

Note: This is the market in the USA.

 

Kyle, the 2 year wait is for the Spider. I believe the current turnaround on a 458 Italia is much, much, quicker. And yes, they should be more responsive. I also had a 360 that I serviced there. I also asked the service department to have someone in sales call me about ordering a 458 SP. I never received a call. For now, we need them more than they need us.

 

I am a first time buyer. I put my deposit down in March with Algar on an Italia. Car (MY 2014) delivered to me at the end of August. In March, Algar estimated a September delivery at the time of my deposit, so they were right on from Day One. Very simple transaction. Very happy customer.

 

First time buyer. Bought my Cali through private sale. I was one of the lucky ones.

$7500 deposit on spider end of May 2013. June got allocation. July went red 10. September 26 notified car was status 40. October 1 notified spider was on the boat and status 90. Expect November or December delivery.

 

What country/ locale?

 

Congratulations. What amount deposit did Algar request?

 

Pretty low, but all transactions are different, so I'd rather not say in order to preserve their right to make that decision on a case by case basis. But lower than what I have seen posted on these threads.

 

I placed an order Feb '13 on a '14 Italia, June build slot at Boardwalk Ferrari of Dallas. The sales manager had the allocation available at the time. I was told it would be a June build with a Sep estimated delivery (I think the sales manager was hedging on the delivery underpromising).

I was told that I would need to give them a $25K non-refundable deposit (it's called special order fee, IMO --> "special" = "your a new customer, we don't know you") once the order would be accepted by the factory, i.e., once it would be status 10, which happened very quickly. I turned up in a few days with my check, had not problem giving a deposit (special fee whatever), since I wanted the car. The sales manager showed me on the computer screen the status 10 and printed me a copy, as well.

That was Feb. The car went red 10 beginning of June. By then, I was a little worried (although coupe allocations are not supposed to be hard to get, they have become very few as of late b/c the factory builds spiders). In the meantime, they had the FNA concierge book me on a factory tour for the end of June, so I figured they wouldn't let me go to the factory if they didn't plan to sell me a car. The sales manager was very honest and kept telling me "don't worry man, you're my June allocation, you saw the sale order, didn't you"

Anyway, once it was red 10, it moved fast, it was probably in the assembly line when I was in the factory, but I forgot the vin# at the hotel, so I never saw it (btw - go to the factory tour, it's an amazing experience) ... it showed shipped status July 11, I think, but got actually shipped out of Jenoa the 23rd. The sales manager got me the name of the vessel from the FNA, so I was able to track it real time. It arrived in NJ Aug 8. Then it got stuck there for a while and I kept bugging the dealer. Eventually, it arrived in Dallas Aug 26 and I picked it up Aug 30.

Bottom line:

1) Having a reputable dealer / honest and connected sales manager are key.

2) You don't give them deposit (special fee whatever) unless the factory has accepted the order (what is the point otherwise? you just fall in the trap RBK pointed to you). Frankly, they shouldn't ask for a deposit without an allocation (what's the point?)

Can't you go to another dealer if you live so far from TB?

 

I am surprised at the amount of money you all had to put down, i just ordered a brand new coupe, first time buyer, was told I would have to give 5k and they never asked for it. So basically I have ordered a car with 0 down.