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  1. stavri

    stavri Karting

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  2. Cris Bertschi

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    #2 Cris Bertschi, May 29, 2009
    This is very interesting!

    Which period does it cover?
    Would you mind taking a picture at the book closed so we can have an idea of the size?

    Regards.
    Cris.-
     
  3. stavri

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  4. stavri

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  5. camma due

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    #5 camma due, May 29, 2009
    Stavri, you are very kind to share this. The Marquis exemplified gentlemen racers.
     
  6. tongascrew

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    #6 tongascrew, May 29, 2009
    Hi i have a nice collection of Portago stuff but nothing like this. Thanks much. #26 looks like Sebring. Do you have a s/n for this car. thanka. just one man's opinion tongascrew
     
  7. trashidelek!

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    #7 trashidelek!, May 29, 2009
    Fantastic! Eagerly awaiting more...
     
  8. jgcferrari

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    #8 jgcferrari, May 29, 2009
    Great pictures please keep posting more
     
  9. Athanase

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    #9 Athanase, May 29, 2009
    #26 de Portago/Maglioli at Sebring 55 was 0496M.
     
  10. Manel Baró

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    #10 Manel Baró, May 29, 2009
    Thank you very much Steve. Have sent a PM to you.
     
  11. Ferranki

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    #11 Ferranki, May 29, 2009
    Priceless. Thanx for sharing.
     
  12. Manel Baró

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    #12 Manel Baró, May 29, 2009
    0496M raced for the first time at the Goodwood 9 Hours (August 22th, 1955). Earlier at Sebring Fon shared the wheel of 0428MD.
     
  13. Aardy

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    #13 Aardy, May 29, 2009
    Not true : the Sebring car was 0496M as you can see on the pic above...
     
  14. tiara4300

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    #14 tiara4300, May 29, 2009
    Thank you so much for sharing
     
  15. GTE

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    #15 GTE, May 29, 2009
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    Wow, awesome stuff. De Portago is one of those truly fascinating characters in Ferrari history.

    I have this model of the Sebring car.
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  16. Manel Baró

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    #16 Manel Baró, May 31, 2009
    Your plain disagreement enhances my interest on the subject. No doubt you, or other Forum members, have some sound documentation -building sheets, original invoices or official Sebring entry forms- I don’t. May I ask you to share it with us or send me a PM. Merci bien!
     
  17. JazzyO

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    #17 JazzyO, May 31, 2009
    Fantastic stuff. Thanks so much!


    Onno
     
  18. Aardy

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    #18 Aardy, May 31, 2009
    No need of building sheets or any document here. 0428MD had typical rounded rear arches (like 0440MD) and can not be confused with 0496M which had a "standard" Scaglietti spider body and was the #26 Sebring car...
     
  19. Tom Roland

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    #19 Tom Roland, May 31, 2009
    Manel,
    Aardy is right. Let's go ahead. Why not start with the book "Marquis de Portago, the Legend", talking of cars ? First box, first line, page 45: 0286AM did not make its debut at Spa (25.7) but 3 months before, at the Coppa della Toscana (31.5). Skip the Osca box. Third box, page 66: it is not "735 Sport... Chassis 482M" but 750 Sport, Chassis 0428MD. What else ? A lot of work. Don't loose time. Courage.
     
  20. Athanase

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    #20 Athanase, Jun 1, 2009
    The ex Portago 54,sn/(?)0428MD,at Sebring 55 was #29 Edwards / Daigh,always black.
    Owner Sterling Edwards.After Sebring,new paint white and red.
    No need of building sheets or any document for that,just see pics,bodies completly different in details.
     
  21. Tom Roland

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    #21 Tom Roland, Jun 1, 2009
    Differents specs above all: chassis frame, 4-speed gearbox, engine etc.
     
  22. Athanase

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  24. stavri

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