Alfa Romeo Tipo 33 Stradale

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  1. wbaeumer

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    No 2 of the cars are identical!

    I drove that car and I tell you, the gearbox is a piece of s**t when cold, I had better brakes on my Kinderwagen, and a Sauna is a refreshing place compared to the Alfa cabin when the sun comes out.....!

    Btw - the car I brokered was -as far as I know- one of only 2 Alfa 33 Stradale that had been registered in Italy and driven on public roads (I found the registration-no. and have the ACI-ocument).
     
  2. TheMayor

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    The Stradale is beautiful and in no way near are they the same or even close --- but you can understand my fascination with the Afla 4c.
     
  3. TheMayor

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    My biggest question about the car was how you could drive it with the carbs under glass right behind your head. It seems like the fumes would be tough to take, not to mention the heat from the engine.
     
  4. velocetwo

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    There is a glass divider
     
  5. velocetwo

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    Four coils two distributers for eight plugs, it's strange how they run the wires between the carbs laying right on the manifold? I wonder if this is stock?
     
  6. wbaeumer

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    #32 wbaeumer, Dec 13, 2013
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    It became hot - man, it became really hot inside....!
    I was "well done"....:)

    But from the chassis, engine etc. it drove fantastic! Cornering was very sharp and precise but neutral. No over- or understeering. Really loved it. Once this f*******g gearbox became warm its great! But when cold its a pain in the a**!!!!!

    btw.- its the only Stradale with this thin front bumper.

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    #33 F1tommy, Dec 13, 2013
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    I believe this is the ex-Japanese car many years ago when it was blue. Also a engine drawing from 1967 showing the ignition setup on a T33/2 1967 Auto Delta race version. The T33 chassis was more advanced than the Porsche and Ferrari prototypes of the same era. The T33 was also more fragile.


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  8. velocetwo

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    Notice in the drawing the airbox plate under the trumpets. In the picture of the blue car you can see the sealing plate, so they must have pushed air into the section under the glass and it would flow along the top of the rear bonnet towards the rear vents to exit.
     
  9. TheMayor

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    Just the drawing makes me want to cry. What a machine!!!!!
     
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    #36 au-yt, Dec 13, 2013
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    Hi Walter
    Do you have any more pictures of this car. People take pictures of the exterior, engine, and sometimes the interior but I love to see actual pictures of the techical aspects mad things like door and body locks, and under the front etc
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  11. f308jack

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    No carbs, I think all 33 Stradales had (Soica?) fuel injected engines.

    Best,

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    SPICA.
     
  13. staatsof

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    Cool but I can see the corrosion fuzz on that complex piece. :eek: Glad I'll never have to maintain one of these.

    I've been passed on track several times by Joe Nastasi in one of his race versions. Gawd awful fast things!
     
  14. F1tommy

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    The front frame work was cast in Elektron (Atesia T) by Campagnolo for all the Stadale's. The Stradale wheelbase was slightly longer than the race versions at 2350mm, and it was detuned for road use. Lucus injection was used on some of the racing T33's, but most used several versions of SPICA injection.
     
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    Ever drive a Miura?
     
  16. velocetwo

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    Or a ATS
     
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    or an Ultima GTR
     
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    No. Sat in one though.

    My Dino would leak in gas fumes all the time and that had a glass between the cockpit and the engine.
     
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    Probably from underneath and though the shift lever area?
    The Bora does that it actual pushes air forward and into the cabin at high speed if you crack the windows at all.

    I didn't find the Miura as noisy or hot as I had expected but then I only drove it for 45 minutes and was too GD worried about doing something, just anything to a half million dollar (at the time) car that wasn't mine.

    The Bora has a 2" thick firewall with fiberglass wool sandwiched and I you turn that double pane glass into a an actual thermopane window it makes for a nice sounding but more civilized drive.

    I bet this Alfa is pretty exciting to drive but doubt I would fit. I don't really fit in a Miura - big feet and long legs.
     
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    The Ultima has no glass ???
     
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    The Ultima has no glass ???

    Correct but the insulation depends on the Build so A/C is a must.



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    #48 F1tommy, Dec 27, 2013
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    A few more vintage T33/2 Stradale photos. The British race modified Stradale leaves alot to be desired:) Also the sister shorter wheelbase race version T33/2 at Nurburgring in 1967. It actually managed to not fall apart and did finish a race!! The chassis pictures show you why Alfa's were always breaking. They were not Italian junk like the Porsche people would like you to believe, just very fragile. Auto Delta prep work also sometimes left room for improvement.
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    Gina and Tipo 33/2 Stradale.

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