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ADAS System - Front of 296

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  1. CinciOptics

    CinciOptics Karting

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    Anyone have a picture of their ADAS system on the front nose of their 296 ?


    Curious how much it breaks up the front lines or how noticeable you think it is....


    I have seen a few different pictures (most of the camo'd prototype back in the day).

    It looks like it blocks the aero in the front slightly.

    I didn't realize that is what that wart was on the front of car until recently. It does not show on the Ferrari configurator either.

    None of my Mclarens were that intrusive on the lines with any of their systems.


    When I was building the car I just pick up the entire group not really for the nannies but more for the fact the FCAM1 was 0.00$ in the package when added with PAR2 (Front Parking Sensors), BRAD (Back Radar), and MIR3 (Electrochromic mirrors). I was like meh, what the hell. Maybe I will use it if I get stuck in traffic. I have found that type of system *useful in stop/go congestion.

    It also sounds like all the systems w/ ADAS can be disabled from the settings inside the car (Lane change, Emerg Breaking, etc).

    Also if I remember correctly you had to have the system for another option I wanted to get?



    No way to go back now as I probably less than a month out from delivery. Hopefully it is not that ugly. :)
     
  2. Ashs

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  3. CinciOptics

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    Thanks for the pic. It doesn't look so bad with the license plate on top of it. But I won't be putting a front license played on since it's not required where I live. I never even noticed it until it was pointed out a meet recently. I wish the configurator showed that or the dealer pointed that out. Guess it's not a huge deal I just would have probably gone a different route had I known.
     
  4. CinciOptics

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    So I did a little research and my order shows:

    Electronics - ADAS
    which includes:
    FCAM - Advance Front Driving Camera - ($0.00)
    PAR2 - Front Parking Sensors - ($1519.00)
    BRAD - Back Radar - ($2767.00)
    MIR3 - Exterior Electrochromic Rear View Mirrors ($1315.00)


    The front radar (the giant square) is *NOT* included in ADAS according to the configurator and my spec sheet.

    That square is not on my Ferrari build out picture from the dealership as well.

    The other cameras you can see clearly in the bumper on my spec pics.


    Additionally in the online configurator it does not show the square on the bumper even with ADAS *unless you also select the Front Radar system.



    This is confusing because the description states:

    "Adas pack
    The ADAS package brings together the front radar, the back radar, the electrochromic exterior mirrors and the camera."

    How does it "bring it together" if did not include the front radar in the package? Maybe it only brings it together if you also purchase that front radar system otherwise the ADAS is limited? and cannot perform the front radar functions like emergency breaking and auto cruise control.

    Did it omit the front radar because it was the AF package?

    I am hoping that is the case. :)


    I know the AFS system cannot level the lights with the AF system for examples because of the suspension.
     
  5. Ashs

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    I'm doing my Atelier next month.

    Is the front camera available as a 'stand-alone'?

    Where are the additional cameras for the surround view?

    I don't do many motorway miles so wouldn't get much benefit from the auto cruise and emergency breaking, not that I'm averse to them, but really do not want the ugly front parking sensors, therefore a front camera, and maybe 'surround view', would be a better option. However, are they part of the ADAS system and can't stand alone?
     
  6. CinciOptics

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    Hopefully this helps others out who still specing their 296 or have their orders pending in case they want to change the config.

    ADAS - is a generic term (Advance Driver Assistant Systems) and will appear on everyone's spec sheet regardless of options selected.
    The following items are the options that will appear under the ADAS section on your build.
    Again seeing the term "ADAS" on your build sheet does *NOT* mean you selected the ADAS FULL PACKAGE with the ugly blackbox.

    * = Will change the appearance of the car


    *ADAS FULL PACKAGE - Includes a package of items that also adds the front radar system which is the ugly black box in the front aero. Adds dynamic cruise control and the emergency break feature. It's much more invasive visually than the surround front camera alone. If you selected this option you will see ADAS term appear TWICE on the options list.

    *FRONT RADAR w/ ACC - Could not find the code or price for this option outside of the ADAS Pack. This is the huge black box in the front aero. The online configurator will allow you to select this option separately however.

    *SURR - adds cameras in front, back, and side mirrors. It has that visible button on the lower front lip as seen above. It also has some larger protrusions on the bottom of the side-view mirrors. Definitely take a look at pictures of those if you're sensitive to car appearance. I passed on SURR. It changes the mirror profiles and places a tiny round camera on the front splitter. The front splitter camera isn't terrible but the cameras on the mirror are really annoying bumps to look at imho.

    *PAR2 - Front parking Sensors, least obtrusive imho. These are cameras sticking out at the top of your front grill on either side. They are pretty small, black, but some people might not like it as mentioned. I did choose this option. See attached picture.

    BRAD - also requires MIR (electrochromic side mirrors) - It will show you the little triangles in your side mirrors if there's someone in your blindspot to either side. The back radar warns the driver of vehicles in the blind spot, and of traffic passing behind the vehicle with reverse gear engaged. I choose this option as well.

    FCAM - Advanced front driving camera mounted in rearview mirror.


    Rear Parking Camera is standard I believe and not listed. At least for the United States.



    Included Electronics outside of ADAS category.

    AFS - The additional features of the adaptive headlights are the optimization of the low beam for highways and adverse weather conditions, the cornering light at low speed and the automatic height adjustment (not with Fiorano)

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  7. CinciOptics

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    #1. The front camera (FCAM) does not change the appearance. This is located by the rear view mirror from what I understand.

    #2. SURR - The 360 surround view cameras place a small round camera (see above) on the front splitter and cameras on both side mirrors. I absolutely hate the side mirror change with this option. The tiny front camera isn't THAT bad.

    #3. Auto cruise and emergency breaking are part of the ADAS **FULL** Package and will be listed underneath the ADAS Section if you selected it. If you choose Surround package PLUS the full ADAS package it looks absolutely ridiculous. I would avoid this (or the FRONT RADAR STANDALONE) unless you absolutely have to have emergency breaking and auto adjustment cruise control.
     
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  8. Ashs

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    Thank you for both replies above.

    Does this camera display in the mirror too, or in the dash?
    What does it do, other than show a view of the front? Does it work as a dashcam?

    I hadn't even seen this as an option.
     
  9. CinciOptics

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    The FCAM camera is used for traffic sign recognition and lane departure warnings by the ADAS systems.

    Just to reiterate it does not require the radar mounted in the front grill cutout that the adaptive cruise control (ACC) uses.

    FCAM is a no cost option.
     
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  11. Ashs

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    Thank you for the picture. The lumps on the mirrors have sealed the surround views fate!
     
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  12. noobified

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    What is the ordering code for the FULL ADAS system?

    I don't see it in the Excel pricing sheet the dealer sent me.
     
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  14. noobified

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    Thanks again! It says not for the US market, so I guess we just have to add ACC1 an an option to complete the ADAS system.
     
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    I’m glad I did not tick these options as they look terrible! (And I’m cheap)… same goes for the pimples on the bottom of the wing mirrors for the surround cameras… surely in 2023 they could have made this stuff far less intrusive - especially in a £300k+ car
     
  17. noobified

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    There are other manufacturers that seem to have done a better job aesthetically integrating cameras and radar on their cars, or perhaps those features don't stand out as much as they would on a Ferrari body. It's just a matter of how much technology one wants on their car. The 296 GTB/GTS will never be an F430 or 458, so I figure I'll just embrace all the technology it offers even if there are some minor (or major to some) cosmetic tradeoffs.
     
  18. SECRET

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    On a car that commands such a high $ figure, it is comes off as an afterthought. The Revuelto is a great example where the designers knew that there would be a need for specific sensors and cameras, and worked to figure out how to integrate them.

    That little bump is, IMHO, a bit embarrassing.

    You can bet 100% that Ferrari beancounters look at customer uptake of these things to convince designers to cut costs and just stick on these types of things because it's 'good enough.' You should vote with your dollars.
     
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  19. noobified

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    Does anyone know the cost of the ACC1 option?
     
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    $4,843
     
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  21. noobified

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    Does the car come with regular cruise control without the ACC1 option?
     
  22. KL runner

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    Yes , I asked the same question of my dealer as I actually dislike the adaptive cruise control on any car
     
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  23. SECRET

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    Yes
     
  24. SECRET

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    Finally got the car back from PPF today after 8 weeks! You won't miss the ADAS systems one bit, but I think you will certainly be convincing yourself over and over again that those additions weren't as visually imposing as you really feel they are.
     
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