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  1. Dave rocks

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    Your work is fantastic!!
     
  2. cf355

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    just finished reading the whole thread.....fantastic progress/results/restoration :)
     
  3. Newman

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    #128 Newman, Feb 12, 2016
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  4. 2dinos

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    Looks freak'n fantastic Paul!

    Beautiful workmanship!!!
     
  5. wlanast

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    on the edge of my seat waiting for each new update. Like so many, thanks for the peek into your excellent work!
     
  6. Newman

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    Thanks guys! Im excited to start putting the rebuilt and plated parts back on the car. I had some stencils made for the rims as well to put the ferrari script back on after the rims are refinished. Im also making stencils for the air boxes if anyone is interested.
     
  7. ferraripete

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    Paul,

    I would like 4 wheel and 2 air box stencils.
     
  8. Newman

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    Will do!
     
  9. ferraripete

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    thanks paul. pm with details...I will shoot you a check.

    can't wait to see this bbi complete. it will be over the top impressive!!!
     
  10. Newman

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    #135 Newman, Feb 16, 2016
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  11. jjeffries

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    Wow. Pure joy. John in CT.
     
  12. wlanast

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    (double-wipe drool)
     
  13. Newman

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  14. Sean F.

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    Not sure what your time is worth but those are available from berlinetta motorcars on e-bay.

    Ferrari Wheel Transfer Decals Set of 4 for 308 Also Have The Ones for 512 BBI | eBay
     
  15. Newman

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  16. enzo52

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    Is'nt that an error in paint ? Or do the original paints have that also coming out of the F-plant ?

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  17. Newman

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    Not sure what you mean. Can you be more specific?
     
  18. dwhite

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    Paul, I am sure he is referring to the orange peel. If you are keeping orange peel in final finish. I know cars came from the factory with less than perfect paint. I know someone who had their BB wet sanded after delivery because of all the orange peel.

    Are you going for factory finish at the time or a perfect paint job? I personally would want perfect.
     
  19. enzo52

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    Profesionels always told me that ORANGE PEEL is an imperfection in the paint surface and try to evoid it by spraying less paint and more layers...
    so why do you want that orange peel on this car ?

    Enzo52
     
  20. Newman

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    #145 Newman, Feb 19, 2016
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    Some peel but still a little better than original. Seeing that 700km 81 BB and doing a day long inspection on it (took about a thousand photos) I can say the paint finish was very inconsistent suggesting they spent time on areas that may have had dirt in the paint and other areas got less attention. It was smooth in places and peely in others. This 84 was very much like that and it wore its original paint as well. Will we make it that bad? No but not perfect either because it could lead to an over-restoration points deduction.

    This pic is from that original 81 BB. Note the black glob on the filler neck drain tube. I found it interesting they left that and I know how they did it because it happened to me. When I was putting the sealer on the gas tank access panel after completing a BB I reached in with the brush and bumped the new hose I had put on earlier. I left it! Its things like that that either excite someone because the cars weren't perfect or it makes others cringe. I like it but its also exponentially more difficult to make a car like it was vs perfect.
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  21. Newman

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    #146 Newman, Feb 19, 2016
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    It is an imperfection for sure and thats what sets a production car apart from a one-off or a custom car. Depends on the persons goal. Correct or amazing are the choices. The paint wont remain as it came out of the gun but we wont take away all imperfections either unless the car's owner decides to take it to that level.
     
  22. godabitibi

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    #147 godabitibi, Feb 19, 2016
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    In many high level concours judging the paint if too nice will deduct point. NCRS Corvettes, MCA Mustangs or Shelby etc. I think somewhere between perfect and correct is the best. Highly polished soft orange peel looks factory to me.

    The factory slowpyness work is also to be reproduced to look correct. This is personally what I like on a restoration. The contact cement that is too wide on the body for the weatherstrip etc. sealer drops where they do not belong etc etc. When it all looks fresh and new but factory correct it makes me drool.

    A few years back I was supervising a friend's 69 428 Mach 1 resto. When I went to the body shop to tell them how to do the under carriage primer the painter was shocked. I asked him to spray very thick so we get lots of runs and dripping. He said '' it's the first time ever in my life I'm asked to do runs and dripping on purpose, you guys are crazy'' LOL

    Great work Paul!
     
  23. Newman

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    The painters definitely cringe when I tell them to be messy!
     
  24. MS250

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    I don't know Claude, not sure I would want to pay to have a restore done and tell them to make it sloppy. A car is really only original once, if going through the restore, then might as well restore it. Not over restore, but restore it to like new condition.Repeating the mistakes , or lack the items that were available back then doesn't appeal to me. I guess these are personal choices.
    The jury is still out on this one for me. Ultimately, whoever pays the bill can decide :)
     
  25. Newman

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    Correct means higher points and usually higher ROI
     

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