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Discussion in 'FF/Lusso/F12/812S' started by Frenzisko, Feb 10, 2018.

  1. Caeruleus11

    Caeruleus11 F1 Veteran
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    Thank you, this sounds exciting! I remember when the F12tdf was first shown, many people had reservations. Its possible the design will grow on us or maybe not, but they have not let us down yet! :)
     
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  2. dcmetro

    dcmetro F1 Veteran

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    I'd love to see some carbon fiber wheels available for the VS, like for the Pista/SF90
     
  3. Ale55andr0

    Ale55andr0 Karting

    May 23, 2019
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    the 812 can't hit 200kph in 7.6s....
     
  4. mepassione

    mepassione Formula Junior

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    Me too
     
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  5. day355

    day355 Formula Junior

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    I think the most appriate term is " impressive " ;)
     
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  6. mepassione

    mepassione Formula Junior

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    Will the car be numbered?
     
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  7. XSQF

    XSQF Rookie

    Apr 5, 2019
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    Can't wait to spec it, especially if they can make the front end more aggressive. Out of curiosity is anyone else extremely bothered by the auto start-stop button you have to press everytime especially on these track versions cars.
     
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  8. gliazzurri

    gliazzurri Karting

    Jun 11, 2016
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    I’m bothered by that on any vehicle that has it regardless of brand.
     
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  9. PTG1

    PTG1 Formula Junior

    Oct 7, 2017
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    Anyone have an idea of previous buying experience required to obtain an allocation if the car will be limited by production or numbered? I want to obtain an allocation but the dealer is saying need to have both 5 or 6 cars before and says I can only have an allocation if the car is limited by production
     
  10. XSQF

    XSQF Rookie

    Apr 5, 2019
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    What do you mean 5 or 6 cars before? Like the 5 previous models or 5 cars from that dealership. Here it’s any v12 under your name and 812 ownership.
     
  11. XSQF

    XSQF Rookie

    Apr 5, 2019
    37
    Yea but Ferrari decided to put it up top where you have to reach up every damn time. At least in my other cars it’s close to the start engine or just automatically turns off in sport or track mode. Dumbest thing ever.
     
  12. PTG1

    PTG1 Formula Junior

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    He suggested I would have had to have bought 5 or 6 cars new before being considered, I do not have an 812, I have been offer a GTS but I'm working out if I want to take it as I will have so many cars coming at the same time
     
  13. Challenge64

    Challenge64 F1 Veteran
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    My dealer has not said the criteria is out. Normally it won't be out until the car is publicly released. Now for criteria there are two standards, Ferrari and your dealer. According to others here, dealers play a lot of games by asking customers to buy unwanted cars and such while Ferrari seems to reward their Top customers first - and Top is a fluid position earned by Ferrari for years of dedicated buying and loyalty to the brand.

    Now just a guess but my hunch is that 1-2 V12s recently purchased are going to be highly suggested. 812 and a Lusso would place most people in front of most others...but that is just my guess.
     
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  14. PTG1

    PTG1 Formula Junior

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    This dealer seem to just want to push more cars so, I'm not sure its worth staying in their game, might be better off cancelling cars and just picking up used as at the moment I'm playing a game where they hold all the cards. If it's numbered I won't get it anyway, if its not it will probably go the way of the Pista and I can buy 12 to 18 months old for list without taking another £350k car in the meantime. It would be great to get it new to my spec but, I think this dealer is over playing their hand and treating me like a fool. Time will tell I suppose but, at the moment I'm not sure what I should do
     
  15. LMH

    LMH Karting

    May 5, 2019
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    Does anyone knows, for the TDF, what your position as a client needed to be to be offered an allocation?

    This are the 6 categories we are all catalogued by the brand:

    1.- Low
    2.- Hight
    3.- Customer
    4.- important
    5.- VIP
    6.- TOP
     
  16. George330

    George330 Formula Junior

    Oct 19, 2009
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    no one knows what the criteria will be at the moment. One thing is for sure: if the car is numbered, your dealer has no say. The factory will pick the initial list of who gets the car and only if the people on the list don’t accept the offer of a build slot will the dealers recommend more names to the factory.
    One late order just before the car is released wont make much of a difference.
    Of course if the car is limited only by production time the game changes completely.

    My own info suggests the car will be numbered


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  17. gliazzurri

    gliazzurri Karting

    Jun 11, 2016
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    It’s good exercise for you.
     
  18. Solid State

    Solid State F1 Veteran
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    Every non-numbered car is limited by the production time it is made. Just an obvious and not a meaningful statement. Its as magical as saying you found something in the very last place you looked. o_O
     
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  19. XSQF

    XSQF Rookie

    Apr 5, 2019
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    I'd say VIP unless you went in the dealer and bought one of their ff's plus f12 and California I'm sure some dealers would've been able to make something happen. In Canada, it was much harder to get a TDF than a speciale aperta.
     
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  20. George330

    George330 Formula Junior

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    If it is numbered it will be VIP and I doubt that all VIP will get one


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  21. skinguy23

    skinguy23 Formula Junior

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  22. RamsHmb

    RamsHmb Formula Junior
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    Wa at the dealer picking up my GTS and dropping off my SF. Still no word on specifics but sounds like there will be a coupe and convertible. As noted above, if numbered your dealer won’t have a say. I was told I was in a good spot for both so fingers crossed. Also, my dealer is sold out on the GTS. Three years worth of deposits taken and builds complete. And this is a dealer that owns several locations in CA...will be interesting to see what resale looks like but at this point I have no interest in selling. Car is exceeding my expectations!
     
  23. BarryK

    BarryK Formula 3

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    Last time I heard those same words was three years about the 812 coupe. We all know how that movie played out :)
     
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  24. LVP488

    LVP488 F1 Rookie

    Jan 21, 2017
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    In terms of the difficulty to get a car, supply vs demand is a criteria that should not be overlooked.
    Recently it seems Ferrari has no interest in excessive demand - they rather try to adjust supply with demand, no matter where they want the build number to be there is a price at which the demand will not significantly exceed the supply. And they'll try to set the price there, that's what they did with the Pista.
     
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  25. mepassione

    mepassione Formula Junior

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    That’s also because they’ve seen that the recent strategy based on oversupply ended up detrimental to the brand so they are better off producing less, increasing price and model cycles to achieve the same or higher revenue and protect the exclusivity image of the brand which is key. What that means is that future models will cost much more and the concept of limited edition will lose its meaning somehow future cars will have shorter life Cycles , cost much more and limited editions will be reserved for iconas and other one-off series perhaps a few models series ( 812 VS Aperta?). That to me also may mean premiums in the future for old limited editions is likely to be lost in favour of newer high performance low production build new series. The business model has changed
     

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