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812 Superfast experience

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  1. ForeverCar

    ForeverCar Formula Junior

    Jan 20, 2017
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    Hi all,

    It has been a few months since I took delivery of my 2021 812 Superfast in the US. It’s likely one the last 812 Superfast produced for the US and I’m grateful that I get to enjoy it. With fun miles spread across cars, I don’t get to put as many miles as I would like on the cars. ~1700 miles so far (it’s currently taking a break as I play with some other cars). My use is 100% fun miles on the street (if I return to lots of track driving, I’d rather drive dedicated track/race cars).

    In short, I love the 812 Superfast (I am a coupes with no sunroof quirky enthusiasts - but may get sucked into some special open top cars). I am not special enough to get a 812 Competitizione and I accept that. If there are more V12 unassisted Ferrari in the future, great! If not, I plan on keeping the 812 Superfast “forever”.

    GPFs? From the extra intake hoses in the engine bay, it should have GPFs. Looking into the tailpipes, I don’t see mesh screens so I don’t know what that indicates. I have failed to get the engine code from my dealership as they respond with “Huh? I don’t understand your request.” There may be a higher pitch or louder exhaust notes for a different 812 Superfast variations. However, I find that I love and enjoy the sound as is. Part throttle, full throttle, mid-range rpm, high rpm, all sounds fantastic!

    Physically, it’s a relatively big and heavy car. The rear steering helps make it be more agile and responsive. The engine is the highlight for me. It will be a sad day when no more unassisted V12 sport cars are being produced.

    The whole package works great and I appreciate and love the car for what it is. The interior is beautiful, the experience is special with the right amount of drama, the engine (!!), it easy to get in & out of, the design is beautiful (to me), the large fuel tank is great for long drives, the more GT nature is wonderful (exciting while relaxing if that makes sense).

    If there’s one thing I can change, it’d be the rev limiter behavior. Specs has 8900 rpm and one might expect full power all the way. As shared in other threads, a soft limiter starts kicking in around 8600 rpm. There are likely great reasons for that and I have come to appreciate the tuning as well (it’s not a hard hit on the limiter at 8900 rpm that would upset the chassis and potentially be tougher on parts). In the grand scheme of things, I can say it really doesn’t matter though. My approach is enjoying the cars for what they are and what they are good at (rather than wishing they are something else).

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  2. CJA

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    Beautiful car. Thanks for the write up. Congrats.
     
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  3. Shorn355

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    Gorgeous car and great post/writeup - Thanks :) I had the opportunity to drive one at FoD for a charity event - Was an amazing experience - To me being a mid-engine guy it was the first "Big Boy" front-engine Ferrari I had driven (drove a Cali and a Porto at similar events) - was totally impressed!

    Hmmmm - how much stock could I sell?? ..... :)

    + LOVE the color on your car!
     
  4. 3POINT8

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    great write up thanks!
     
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  5. Caeruleus11

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    Congratulations and thanks for the writeup- beautiful car! And as the sign says, "let the fun begin!"
     
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  6. JTSE30

    JTSE30 F1 Rookie

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  7. technom3

    technom3 F1 World Champ
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    Painted shields... Take your crown sir. You deserve it.
     
  8. ForeverCar

    ForeverCar Formula Junior

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    The painted shields are definitely a treat for myself. They are a little loud in a sense but I couldn’t resist!
     
  9. peterye93

    peterye93 Rookie

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    Beauty! Which blue? I love the aluminum /silver calipers w blue than the more common yellow too!
     
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  10. ForeverCar

    ForeverCar Formula Junior

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    Blu Scozia. I prefer non-metallic and slightly lighter than Blu Pozzi.
     
  11. Boots

    Boots Formula 3

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    Love love love your spec.
     
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  12. wrs

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    Even with the GPF the car is viscerally loud and the sound is great. I love mine without it but I doubt you will have any point of comparison with your neighbors so no worries. It's a great car, enjoy it while we still can.
     
  13. Caeruleus11

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    Sorry to go a little but OT- but what do those hoses accomplish? More air into the engine or are they a kind of sound pipe? Or something else?


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  14. JTSE30

    JTSE30 F1 Rookie

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    I did not inquire, however, visually, it is an easy method to determine if your 812 family model was originally produced with GPF devices
     
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  15. technom3

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    Yes... But far more like the original shields on Ferraris.
     
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  16. ForeverCar

    ForeverCar Formula Junior

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    Fortunately (or unfortunately), my 812 spends time in a “garage” that has many 812 (Superfast, GTS, and soon to have Competitizione “neighbors”). Good thing is, I am good with the way mine sounds. It’s okay that there are other cars that sound different and/or “better”. :D
     
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  17. SeattleStew

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    Time to put an xpipe on it! Mufflers will make it quite a bit louder. I’ve enjoyed just the xpipe on mine, and then went with a valve controller.

    I don’t think any of the GTS’s in the garage have exhaust, so not sure how the note changes with the GPF
     
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  18. ForeverCar

    ForeverCar Formula Junior

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    I just have to avoid hearing yours. ;)
     
  19. Newjoint

    Newjoint Formula 3

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    GTS (with GPF)is louder on startup than my SF(non GPF) but quieter on normal cruising. Press the accelerator on both and belissima for both sounds. The non GPF car is a soprano
    while the GPF car is a mezzo soprano.
    These are both standard exhaust cars. Yes exhaust mods will make them louder (and some owners happier)and in some cases turn the GPF car back into a soprano but I like my neighbors(most of them anyway) and dislike warning law enforcement that I am out and about.
    Sooner or later cars will be crushed into silence and no longer belch toxic fumes-and cars like the 812(any variant) will be classics. We should enjoy them while we can


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  20. SeattleStew

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    It’s been there a little more than usual, but otherwise it’s easy to avoid since I’m driving it so often lol
     
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  21. Carl A

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    What a beautiful car, well done
     
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  22. Jeff3545

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    “Physically, it’s a relatively big and heavy car.”

    for a Ferrari but not by a lot, about 150 lbs more than a 458. It comes in 100 lbs lighter than a Mercedes GT-R. It’s really pretty remarkable that Ferrari delivered everything in the 812 Superfast in 3,600 lbs. You have to go to cars like the 488 Pista and McLaren 675LT to get closer to 3,000 lbs and then you are driving a go-kart. The butt dynamometer says this car feels a lot trimmer than 3,600 lbs. The electric steering probably contributes to the light feel. The wheelbase is within 1/2 an inch of a C7 Corvette but with the front mid engine placement it feels longer because you are sitting pretty much on the rear axle. The rear wheel steering shortens it up a lot, equivalent to a 911 w/o RAS.
     
  23. ForeverCar

    ForeverCar Formula Junior

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    20k miles yet?
     
  24. ForeverCar

    ForeverCar Formula Junior

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    I plan on putting the 812 on the scale when I get the chance and will share the actual weight. I find Ferrari numbers to be on the “optimistic” side. :rolleyes:

    For reference, my 911R weighs in at 3147 lbs with ~23 gallons of fuel in it. Granted, besides the large fuel tank, it’s one of the lightest specs out there. When I get the Mclarens on the scale, I’ll share those numbers too.
     
  25. SeattleStew

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    No, something like 18,3xx. I'd certainly have hit 20k miles by now, but I've been incredibly busy. Business expansion and new puppy suck away all my driving time :D. I guess the good thing is business expansion can pay for more cars LOL.
     
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