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812 GTS Allocation

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  1. Scudmsl

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    That’s a very different car and a very different situation.
     
  2. F2003-GA

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    Seems like allocation has loosened up significantly from when the GTS was first announced
    No need to purchase additional vehicles or have an ownership history longer that 3 Ferrari's
     
  3. greyboxer

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    There is a long tradition of discounted four seat Ferraris - not for two seaters
     
  4. F2003-GA

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    Bought my first two brand new F355's with a discount but No discount since
     
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  5. ilCapo

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    I think there was a very narrow window to buy these halo Production series cars during Covid… Then later, as the pandemic wore on, people got bored or realized they too could die from Covid .. or that life was slipping them by in lockdown, and sometime over the summer they decided “oh just **** it” and started spending money like the plane was going down. That sort of thing happened in every Country so now we’re seeing very full order books again. The best way to get a GTS now may well be to wait nine months until the financial repercussions of Covid really take hold and people start flipping those early cars that get delivered.

    I agree that the 812 GTS is going to go down as the better, badder, more beautiful 550 Superamerica of its time. Unlike that era, Ferrari is it’s own company now, they are making many more cars than they used to. That’s good in a way because the World has grown (Consider how many Ferraris were delivered to China in the early 90s versus now). Slightly more production in this era actually helps build the legend that follows and allows for a broader spectrum of collectors worldwide without flooding the market with so many cars that it cheapens the brand.

    The car to get in all of this is going to be the 812 GTS with special emphasis on the final GTO/TDF version. The final version produced in slightly higher numbers is going to be the unicorn of its time. It would be nice if they made enough of them that we see them on the road regularly, rather than exclusively at Pebble or the Cavalino.
     
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  6. Tommy Boy

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    My dealer is pretending that GTS demand is massive but I think they're playing games. Am hearing that they're seeing real resistance from their regular high end buyers who have deposits on GTS and SF-90, especially because both price out in same league. Many of these buyers will get GTO invites as well.

    Getting a build allocation may take time, but I think you can walk in on most US dealers with minimal history and buy a GTS.
     
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  7. ilCapo

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    I bought mine in FL (jan delivery, being built now) .. I wanted one for my summer house in Canada.. That dealer (one of the biggest Canadian dealers) are only working on on 2022 allocation now. 2021 is sold out. I don't think they are holding out on me.
     
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  8. Tommy Boy

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    Getting the build allocation is the hold up. Factory disruptions and all. I wonder why the insiders on this board don't post more on this.

    The bottom line is if someone wants a GTS, and dealer wants to get them as a customer, they don't need any history to get the car. None.
     
  9. Gh21631

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    I believe this is true unless you wanted an early allocation.
     
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  10. nimamd

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    Are any GTS allocations still available?
     
  11. ilCapo

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    Nope. Not this year.
     
  12. Avia11

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    They are done for the production run... unless there are cancellations.
     
  13. Horsin'around

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    True?

    The entire 812 gts production is sold out?


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  14. Avia11

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    I was looking for another allocation. No luck. A very nice forum member offered me their spot if they got a VS aperta allocation. Otherwise no luck...
     
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  15. bearmdjd

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    I heard the same, that allocations are all spoken for, but I bet some dealerships still have late spots open.
     
  16. khal360

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    I’m pretty sure they are done.
     
  17. Xrayv8

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    My dealer also confirmed that FNA notified them earlier this month that all GTS allocations are done.
     
  18. kimwizzzuuu

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    I know one dealer have an allocation available but require to buy a brand new Rosso Corsa 812SF in the showroom at retail.
     
  19. RamsHmb

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    Will be interesting to see what the resale market will look like. Did ok getting out of SF but seems to be flooded now. Honestly, my GTS will be my kiddos car one day so not concerned but I am curious
     
  20. sh11783

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    I know USA dealers are not taking GTS orders but if FNA has said no more allocations then what does that mean for customers with status P (approved by dealer) but no allocation eg my current status. Should I expect a call soon saying sorry no car and here is your deposit back? Is that the right way to interpret this?
     
  21. LVP488

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    What do you mean by "no allocation" on your side? my guess is that an allocation is different from a production slot, and as a buyer you never get an allocation as such - you are informed when the production slot is allocated, but the dealer may have before a number of allocations waiting for being transferred (gradually) into production slots. Your case then depends on how the dealer did manage the allocations (whether they "oversubscribed" or not).
     
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  22. sh11783

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    To be honest I have been buying F cars since 2006 and I still have no idea about how the black box works. I have seen my orders progress the same way each time from placing a deposit - status W (waitlist) to status P (approved by dealer) to status 10G (approved by hq). The mystery to me is when in this process are you assured a car? I have understood from discussions with my dealer in the past that allocations (of production slots) are given out to dealers on a rolling basis who in turn assign them to clients with firm orders but that the total number of cars in a particular series the dealer will eventually receive is uncertain. Thus there is a degree of judgment on how many orders a dealer takes on based and a lot of back and forth with the factory to compete for allocations with other dealers or get extra slots from the factory. When XrayV8 says no more allocations from FNA I presume that to mean if your car isn’t in build then no car even if your status W or P but I would like to know if this is correct? As I said before I know the order book is closed eg no more new orders but what about those with orders in?
     
  23. Avia11

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    I have been told that 10G or approved by HQ means you have a car coming. Once a car is in 10G status it will fill a production slot.

    When that production slot opens up depends on a few things: i) your status with the dealer compared to other clients ii) the dealership's relationship with Maranello iii) production slots per month assigned to your dealer.
     
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  24. sh11783

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    Thx for that. I guess the question I should ask is has anyone on this board placed a deposit, gone to status W and P and then told sorry no car eg, never progress to 10G? In other words is it a matter of if you get a car or when you get a car in my case? I ask all of this because the GTS is the only F car I have ordered where I am experiencing a very slow production slot allocation and I am getting concerned based on posts on the board that I am getting setup for a big disappointment.
     
  25. Xrayv8

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    It was my understanding that when they said no more allocations, I took that to mean that if one is on the dealer's waiting list and they have not gotten the slot allocated to them by their dealer then they likely will not be getting a car. Remember, dealer will gladly takes deposits to put you on the list and then work their way down the list as slots are allocated to them by FNA. I'm sure in the end they will have more deposits then slots. This happened with the Pista and Pista spiders and in the end, they simply returned their deposits or transferred them to the F8.

    Avia11 is absolutely correct that an allocation to a customer depends on all 3 items he listed above. I can't recall if it was in this thread or perhaps the 812 VS thread but Ferrari is extremely interested in how much a client devotes to the brand. Buying new models obviously helps but they also want participation in Ferrari events including Corsa Pilota courses which they value greatly. I know for a fact that certain individuals have been offered cars such as the monza even though they have only purchased one new car but have participated many times in Ferrari driving courses.

    In the end, you will have to circle back with your sales advisor or manager to get the real answer.
     
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