612 CPO

As Harry Belafonte sings,

"It was clear as mud
but it covered the ground
and the confusion
made me head go round".

That makes me head go round even more. Can you get a Carfax on this car? That might help you see if either the belts were done, or at least maybe where it has been serviced so you can contact them. Another option is to ask the dealer who the previous owner(s) were and contact them.

 

There are always some issues with a used car of any kind. They always need something. I always buy my Ferraris with a fresh fluid and belt service (if they have them).

 

Well now doesn't this thread seem completely unnecessary.

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Ahh..I thought you were indicating a proper major service had been done with the belts. Sorry, forgot the inspection indicated the brake fluid was bad. Not surprised by the rest. My batt was bad too at purchase. I actually spent about the same in unanticipated expenses getting it sorted, $10k all told. Actually had about $6k unanticipated expenses.

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So a couple of thoughts:

I would get copies of these service records (2011 belt change etc) and copies of these details of the inspection (these are the measurements I have been expecting the inspection to have documented).

Re belts - I think you are up to date and thus no CPO issue.

However, I think you may have a case to make with the dealer and FNA for the over due fluids. You should check if the CPO requires that fluids be up to date per the the service book...you may have have been sold a CPO car without by the book fluids. Perhaps that is an angle to get some relief from the dealer...

 

General note - this is why a PPI is a must for me when buying a Ferrari. I found similar stuff with my CS during the PPI and then negotiated a price that took this info into account (and the seller actually did some of the work before delivery).

I understand how a buyer could expect a CPO car to arrive in great shape and not requiring $$ to be current and drivable. Sadly that is not always reality and we are dealing with used car dealers here (fancy logo on the sign or not). The saying "buyer beware" exists for a reason...these are six figure purchases...spend the $500 on a PPI to get some (albeit not perfect!) information to assist with this very material dollar purchase. My first attempt at buying a Ferrari (from an authorized dealer) taught me this lesson in spades...the PPI revealed collision repair that the dealer claimed ignorance of and car fax did not mention. Best $200 I ever spent...that PPI saved me big money and aggregation.

 

That statement in regard to your 612 is false. And dangerous. The brake fluid gums up with time regardless of mileage and can lead to catastrophic failure.

My 612 became consistently smoother with heavy usage for a few months before kinda leveling off. Still likes to be run every three days at least. Just a thought, rather than trying to blow the motor, ease her into it

 

I agree about this fluid issue. If this dealer knowingly sold a Ferrari with 2.5 year old fluids, that demonstrates a complete lack of regard for the customer IMHO.

I would not give my business to a dealer that did so.

And the insulting crap about fluids not wearing from sitting for years is...(insert profanity filter here).

 

That had to have been written by a salesperson. No Ferrari mechanic would say such a thing.

 

I'm curious, what constitutes "collision repair"? Are you talking about more than panels and paint?

I'm asking because lots of people incorrectly assume that a painted bumper or door panel means collision repair. To me, paintwork causes me to inspect a potential purchase more closely, but if no evidence of structural or frame issues, it almost never dissuades me from a purchase (if the paintwork was done perfectly).

 

If you brought in your own Ferrari that had not been driven much and had 2.5 years on the last fluid change, the service manager would browbeat the crap out of you for neglecting recommended maintenance.

They just did not want to spend any money on the 612 before they sold it. Neatly bypassing the CPO requirements. FNA might be interested in that.

 

Thanks great news, glad the dealer did the right thing.

 

WOW. Glad I've come across all this. PPI for me. So many things to worry about whether i pay 50,000 90,000 or 120,000.

 

Limo Party, reading your other threads and came across this thread. Total agreement, how can a Ferrari dealer sign off on a CPO if it is anything less then perfect.