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60th Anniversary 12 Hours of Sebring

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  1. BartonWorkman

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    #1 BartonWorkman, Feb 2, 2012
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    Audi has just announced they will be entering
    four R18 TDIs (including two hybrids) in selected
    events including Sebring.

    Toyota has applied to run the full FIA WEC season
    schedule at the behest of the FIA.

    Nick Heidfeld will be racing for Rebellion at
    Sebring.

    Despite Peugeot pulling out, Sebring is shaping
    up nicely.

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  2. jknight

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    The new R18 Hybrid, which is understood to use a flywheel energy-storage system rather than batteries, will make its debut in the Spa round of the FIA World Endurance Championship in May.

    Audi will run two cars in the full WEC and three in the season-opening Sebring 12 Hours next month and at Spa.

    The Toyota also debuts at Spa.

    Carol
     
  3. ProCoach

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    68 car entry, largest in 17 years! TBA in ten days to two weeks, as confirmed by the track.
     
  4. BartonWorkman

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    #4 BartonWorkman, Feb 3, 2012
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    The way the Audi Sport Presse release I received
    yesterday reads, it looks as though Audi will
    bring four R18 TDIs to Sebring although not
    hybrids which are set to debut at Spa.

    To wit: Audi Sport Team Joest has entered two cars
    for the new FIA World Endurance Championship (WEC).
    Audi plans to field additional cars at selected races
    such as the 12-hour race at Sebring (USA) and in the
    6-hour race at Spa-Francorchamps (Belgium) which
    doubles as a dress rehearsal for Le Mans for the
    Audi squad.

    As for Toyota, their initial plan was to run a limited
    schedule but Autosport reported in a blurb yesterday
    that the FIA is attempting to sway them into competing
    in the entire season and to that end, Toyota applied
    for full season status. All quite likely the result of Peugeot's
    surprise pull out.

    BHW
     
  5. BartonWorkman

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    The Toyota article got shuffled down the order on
    Autosport quickly with all the breaking F-1 news.

    If I read this correctly, there is a contract provision
    with the FIA stipulating that at least two manufactureres
    represent LMP-1.

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97273

    BHW
     
  6. Str8shooter

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    I'm going to try and make the test session next week and hopefully I'll have some pictures to share.
     
  7. rydermike

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    Test session? You mean the SCCA regional/V8Stockcar/Swedish Camaro Cup weekend? If so what car will you have?
     
  8. Str8shooter

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    Huh....what?
     
  9. GuyIncognito

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    there's an open test for 12 hours competitors next week.

    http://www.americanlemans.com/files/events/2012/0/2012_WINTER_TEST_SCHEDULE.pdf

    at any rate, now that Petit isn't a WEC race, Sebring will be the one chance to see a lot of the cars/teams/drivers.

    Sebring and the Rolex 24 are two of my favorite races of the year; the only time I would ever consider actually living in Florida is late Jan-mid March :)
     
  10. Papa G

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    Tried to get to Sebring but couldn't get a place to stay and I've been on a waiting list since last spring. It sounds like this is the place to be if you can get there.

    Next year thinking about Barber for Grand Am.
     
  11. Desperado

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    I'm staying in Orlando and making the drive to/from - not great but I will be there none the less !
     
  12. BartonWorkman

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    #12 BartonWorkman, Feb 6, 2012
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    Spectacular.

    Warrick's painting "Driver's Meeting" hangs in my
    office wall.

    It was a thrill to have one of my images on the 2001
    official artwork but Warrick is the master.

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  13. open roads

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    I'll be there for sure.

    I am hoping to become a regular sponsor, but not ready to make any announcement yet.

    I may have an RV there. If so I'll gladly play host a while.
     
  14. yoda

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    I wish I could make it this year, last year was a great event.
     
  15. ProCoach

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    That's a fact! <grin>
     
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    Still on the fence. Got my collection of coke bottles to consider....;)
     
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    Did Peugeot pull out of just Sebring or the entire season?
     
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    Entire season...
     
  19. texasmr2

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    Well that sucks!!! I was hoping to see them battle with Audi and Toyota all season.
     
  20. BartonWorkman

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    And there's been no mention of Oreca returning to
    defend their title was a privateer Peugeot entry and
    Pescarolo has done a tie-up with Dome.

    As is usual at the Winter Test, announcements will
    be forthcoming from the FIA and ALMS.

    BHW
     
  21. Alex Rogo

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    I do not expect to see Oreca, or anyone else, running a Peugeot this year as there will be no technical support in the paddock with the demise of the factory effort. The days of having a go in an ex-works year old car as an independent are gone.
     
  22. kylec

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    Why? Why not buy the roller and repower it?
    I realize that pugeot may not sell their stock, but what's so different about that car to prevent it being run privately?
     
  23. Alex Rogo

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    There are many issues to consider, such as engine mapping software, diff mapping, shock programs, aero set-up, special fuel blends, special tools and equipment...the list goes on. The factory LMP cars are as complex and intricate as an F1 car in many ways, and probably more so in some as well.
    Peugeot, or any manufacturer, should be reluctant to lose oversight of the technology employed in these cars, and a well funded privateer effort would seem to have a much better chance of finishing races using a Lola or similar customer based program.
    Endurance racing today is a far different game than it was in the '50s or '60s when, if you scattered your Ferrari motor, you could find some local mechanic to stuff a small block V8 into your Monza or TdF.
    It is unlikely that any team with sufficient resources to properly run an ex-works Peugeot effort would choose that option over building their own bespoke creation.
     
  24. BartonWorkman

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    HPD and Ferrari topped the time sheets in the
    Winter Test.

    Peugeot's pull out has certainly put the FIA and
    scheduled circuits for the WEC into scramble mode
    in order for the FIA to fill it's contractual obligations
    to have (at least) two manufactureres headlining the
    LMP-1 category.

    Toyota has just announced a second entry naming
    Anthony Davidson and Sebestian Buemi as drivers.
    The FIA must be greasing the skids for Toyota in
    order for them to participate in the entire championship.

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97471

    BHW
     
  25. Str8shooter

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    I was able to make yesterday's test. Unfortunately for me it was cloudy all day which doesn't help for pictures. I've only been to Sebring twice. Once in 1982 for the 30th and then 2001. Back then I would show up with three rolls of film and would have to make them last. Now with digital I can shoot away.

    With this being the largest field ever for the 12 hours, I was hoping to see a lot of different cars but it didn't happen. Different cars makes for different pictures and yesterday got repetitive pretty quick. The night before I was playing Forza 4 and they have one game mode where you drive the Audi R18 around the Sebring track while other class cars are going too. It was really fun to fly around the track passing FORD GTs, Panoz, Aston Martins and Jaguars.

    I'm really trying to psych myself up to return for the 12 Hours but its going to be hard if the field is going to be pretty much what I saw yesterday. Perhaps someone can fill me in as to what I can expect to see on race day and why yesterday was lacking.

    I still got some pretty good pics and I'm going through them right now. I'll post some as soon as I get a few picked out. I also took some video and one of my favorite shots was taken from the exit of turn 17 looking straight down the front stretch. The cars would exit the turn and then go through all the gears down the straight. I was behind the cars and because of the location the sound was super amplified. I got one shot where each manufacturer came one after the other and you can hear the unique sound from each perfectly. That's going to take longer to get to as I'm out of hard drive space and will have to get another external hard drive which will be #17 :eek:
     

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