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  1. [gTr]

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  2. Zaza

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    Rare pictures, thanks, this is #150335 which changed plates recently (apparently !)
     
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    well that ^^ sure looks familiar :)
     
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    Auction during Retromobile show in Paris next February for a Swiss Titanio manual gearbox # 156243 estimated at a quite low 240/280 k€
     
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    At that price I’d buy and wait for 25 year qualification.
     
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    #232 Sturm59, Jan 17, 2020
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    Don't forget buyer premium + custom fees + VAT:D

    About these fees, how many % does pay an american citizen when he buys a car in Europe and imports it to the USA?
     
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    No custom fees from Switzerland to Europe, the 10 % announced by Artcurial is a mistake. But 15 % buyer's premium + VAT, YES !
     
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    Sold ( after auction ) at 281 184 € fees included
     
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    Sold 281.000€ + eventually VAT for buyers outside Switzerland
     
  12. LVP488

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    I think I read somewhere (here: https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/a-gated-599-gtb-with-a-gto-engine.616657/) the €281K is all inclusive (with a hammer price of only €210K) ; Switzerland not being part of the EU I'm not sure how VAT works (within EU for instance there is only VAT on a price difference, not on total selling price, unless the VAT was reclaimed in the originating country). With just auction fees on top of €210K the selling price would have been €250.32K, so there is some additional tax accounted for in the selling price - besides, it's always in the best interest of the auction house to disclose a price including as much as possible.
     
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    You would pay VAT at the rate applicable of your EU importing country on the hammer price. Or ex-EU in our case here, 20%. It still makes this a cheap car by the standards of asking prices. Did someone pick up a bargain?
     
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    No, the hammered price was 210 but not sold. there was an "aftermarket" discussion and the car sold around 236 then Artcurial adds 16 % commission + 20% TVA ONLY on these 16 %, which brings to 281k. Price for Swiss buyers. If you are English like Darius or French like you, you pay 20 % VAT extra but if you are German you will pay 19 %, etc... I did pay 20 % on my Swiss 599 to register in France.
     
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    All makes sense. 281k seems very low for a gated 599 with no stories. Not long ago my gated 575 would have been valued at that. I feel someone got a very good deal, do we know who bought it, an owner or a dealer to flip?

    I’m annoyed, I would for sure have bought at that price as I guess would many people here.
     
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