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Discussion in 'Mid-Atlantic Region - USA (PA, DE, MD, DC, VA)' started by Bryanp, Apr 25, 2008.

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  1. BillP00

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    Happy Anniversary Admiral!!!!

    Bryan, those are two great pictures! Thanks for keeping this thread alive.

    Bill P.
     
  2. E60 M5

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    Happy 50th!!! Not many can even say that about marriage let alone a car!! True dedication.
     
  3. 355dreamer

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    What an amazing journey.

    What is the "periscope" thing seen in the original picture, or is that an illusion?
     
  4. Bryanp

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    the SCCA rules for that year dictated a "roll post", soon changed to the roll bar and then roll cage.
     
  5. cheny4

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    #230 cheny4, Jun 14, 2010
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    I had the pleasure of seeing this historic car at Ferraris On The Vine in Williamsburg and I can tell you that pictures do not do it justice. I felt I was transported back to a different time and place when cars were simpler, more fun and more honest (ie. NOT forgiving). Thank you Admiral and Bryan for bringing history to life and sharing it with me. Happy 50th.

    Cheny
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  6. blown daytona

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    without a doubt, he must have been the coolest guy on the base, cruising that thing around back then.
     
  7. mdempsey

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    The first pic of your dad in the car is the coolest one I have seen yet. A second LT should have kept a lower profile on base though :)
     
  8. mdempsey

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    PS I was at FOW last week and tried to put a $25.00 deposit on a car and they just laughed at me. What gives?
     
  9. barcheta

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    sent you a PM Bryan.
     
  10. Bryanp

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    #235 Bryanp, Sep 5, 2010
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    Dad discovered while on the track at Road America for FCA 2009, that the 55 year old drum brake linings were past shot. We disassembled and he drove the shoes and drums to Rochester Clutch in upstate NY (where a lot of the NASCAR folks have their brake/clutch work done). Ferrari SpA graciously provided the original specifications for the lining depth (7mm), and Rochester made sure the drums were truly circular, re-lined the shoes, and matched that lining radius to the drums.

    Dis-assembling/assembling the shoes is a major pain, since the return springs seem to me to be overdesigned; they are huge (about the size of one's index finger) and require an immense amount of force to close the 3/4" gap between them and lock them into each other. It took us about an hour to get the first (of 8) sets hooked.

    Our friend ( and cousin) Harlan Hadley came over yesterday to see what we were up to, saw the spring issue, saw a pair of long-nosed needle nose pliers nearby and asked "do you mind if I destroy these?" Harlan and I sketched a little bit and took turns using the bench grinder and dremel on the pliers. I did some additional tweaking this morning and now we have a tool that reduced the spring task from 60 minutes to about 4 seconds. Now I think Harlan and i will get rich selling this device to the, oh, five guys in America who really could use it.

    The pliers now have a narrow hook on the one side, and a machined cup in the other face, which is about 1/4"? shorter than the other leg.

    Progress, and very satisfying work.

    Pics - the spring arrangement; the new tool; and the 4-second operation - grab and twist.
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  11. E60 M5

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    Innovation at work!! You sure we shouldn't have contacted the Chinese Embassy to see if they could have someone design and make it over in China and then pay huge tariffs to purchase the final product?? Isn't that how its supposed to be?? ;)
     
  12. Bryanp

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    dammit - they probably saw my pics and are making it as we speak . . . .
     
  13. michael bayer

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    First the phillips screwdriver, now the phillips pliars! Admiral make a pair for me please!!
     
  14. lashss

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    Post 235 is why I love old cars...bravo Bryan.

    These stories make the car even more special.

    LS
     
  15. JoshECS

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    Needle nose are a life saver, I've got a draw full of this things in various lengths, widths and angles. Kudos!
     
  16. Bryanp

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    #241 Bryanp, Oct 5, 2010
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    From an email my father wrote to his historian buddies;

    "Dear Dinosaurs,

    This unbelievable saga has added another chapter.

    This past week we took the little blue car to Millville, New Jersey for the 2010 Ferrari Club of America National Meet. By some miracle we did not share in the torrential rain which blanketed the eastern mid-Atlantic states on Thursday, the day of the Concours competition. The judges did their work and at the end of the day the little blue car had another Platinum Award to add to the shelf. I also went through the seven page Coppa Bella Machina check list with the inspector including the mandatory road trip to check out brake pull or steering wheel shimmy or missed shifts or a myriad of other proper car operating details.

    On Saturday the air was chilly and the sun was very bright. The opportunity to bed and test the new brake linings was at hand. After a couple of laps as a passenger in an instructor car I headed out. After a few laps the brakes settled in and probably were working better than at any time over the past fifty years. The motor could not have felt stronger and seemed anxious to really get going.

    By the third session I was very comfortable about the course, braking points were deeper in the approaches, the curbs at the apexes were slight enough to not unbalance the car, the sound of a very healthy motor and the whole experience was really enjoyable. The grin on my face must have been visible even behind the full helmet face shield.

    At the awards banquet the dream started all over, somewhat reminiscent of 2008 at Pebble Beach. When all the camera flashes were finished, our table had the following for the little blue car:
    Platinum Trophy
    Coppa Bella Machina Trophy
    Best Scaglietti Designed Race Car Trophy
    Phil Hill Best Competition Car Trophy
    and
    Enzo Ferrari Best of Show Trophy!

    I think that completes the trifecta: Pebble Beach, Cavallino and FCA National, plus similar results at Mar-A-Lago, Reading Concours and Milwaukee Masterpiece. Methinks that I should now retire the car from the Concours rat race, and see if I can have a few more fun laps on a track.

    Saturday was just an incredible day and the experience of the track laps brought back many memories of the good old days in the sixties.

    Enough for now.

    Best regards,

    Robert"

    The Coppa test was pretty funny - probably 2/3 of the 7-page check list was N/A for our car. Our Coppa judge, Wayne Obry, was still getting the bugs out of his teeth after the check ride, when he got to one of the checklist items which was something like "excessive drafts" . . . .

    I'll have video, including in-car, up on youtube in a week or so. I'll post the link.
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  17. mdsassaman

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    Seeing this car at the Annual Meet was wonderful and even better after getting a ride in it on the track with Admiral Robert Phillips behind the wheel. I think this was the best perk for being the Annual Meet Chairman. I was smiling all day and still talking about the ride.
    Robert, his wife and his son Brian are great people and hearing the history and stories about this great car are a special treat.

    Thank you and we really appreciate you bringing it out and seeing it run on the track. The awards were very well deserved.

    Mike Sassaman
    FCA 2010 Annual Meet Chairman
     
  18. ProCoach

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    Hot damn! The juices will flow! ;) Awesome!

    Bryan, there are several events where you and he could safely do this in the company of others that feel the same way, and with other very special cars.

    Let me know if I can help.

    Best, Peter
     
  19. VIZSLA

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    See if you can coax him up our way ;)
    BTW I have a bit of not-so-great video of you from Labor Day I doubt it would be of interest but I've been meaning to tell you.
    David
     
  20. ProCoach

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    Would love to see that, David! It was a pleasure to meet you at that event.
     
  21. VIZSLA

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    I enjoyed it as well. Its always fun to put a face to an F-Chatter,
    You've been warned about the video, Now I have to figure out how to send it.
    I'm not sure if I have an E-Mail address
     
  22. JoshECS

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    That's amazing Bryan, thanks for sharing that conversaion. Your dad and that car both deserve all of those accolades, and is a great achievement.

    The narrative about the track foray was awesome. After all that's been put into that car nothing is more appropriate than to see it getting properly run. I look forward to getting out there next time it does some laps.
     
  23. toggie

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    #249 toggie, Oct 9, 2010
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  25. Bryanp

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    many thanks for posting the pics, Ron. We had a great day!

    Peter, thank you for the head's up on the VIR events; I'll be in touch. and Harlan H says Hi!
     

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