I love cars and, I like wings and flames! Bring them on please!! I've driven most of the Mclarens and really appreciate them but so far have never have bought one but I like the look of the 765 and I think this car is going to be crazy and wild enough and ticks all the boxes I look for so yeah I'm in! And looking at what Ferrari has coming out I'm definitely out 100%! This "Ferrari is a Ferrari" stigma you refer to belongs to an era before they went off into the luxury goods business. What do we have today? Polarizing designs, overpriced overweight disposable hybrids, no noise, no flames! And no doubt a continuation of massive depreciation! And electrical issues of course.....kinda goes without saying that. PS It's been confirmed there is no F8VS. Not sure what confirmation is required? A branding iron? Pista's resale will remain in good shape for years to come where the spec is sound. That one is easy to see.