458 vs C8 Z06

"Should I sell my current Daily Tesla S plaid to Afford low mileage 2014 458 + Used Tesla Model 3." - This yes, everything else, no.

 

Corvettes are a dime a dozen. I don't care if its a zo6, they look horrible, no class, no style, cookie cutter.

 

Corvettes come with a full warranty. If you are worried about expenses it might be the more rational choice. It's fast and sounds good. I personally don't care for the chunky rear end but my friend that has one loves being able to put his golf clubs in it. I don't care for the giant console that separates the seats and generally puts style over function with that long line of switches.
As for model S vs model 3, if you don't need the space or range of the S then the 3 is a more practical city car.
But since I have a 458 in the garage and a Plaid on order you can guess what my answer would be

 

You should realize that whatever advice you get will depend upon which forum you post this question in.
Ferrari snobs feel threatened by the C8 and will trash it. Corvette enthusiasts will tell you how much they love their cars.
The fact is though the C8 Z06 will literally drives circles around a 458 Italia and leave it lost in its rear view mirror camera…you’ll need to zoom the mirror to its max just to see the dot of a 458 on the horizon. Yes, the Z06 engine screams like the 458 and also makes an additional 200 hp. The interior is far superior to the Italia’s, and there is no point in comparing the tech because the Z06 is like an F35 compared to an F16. The Z06 will also come with a bumper to bumper warranty. Looks are subjective and there is no point arguing about that.

I am a great fan of Ferrari obviously, but I would take a Z06 over a ropey 458 Italia any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

 

Some great responses so far so will try not to be redundant- Also will try to to be too wordy since English is not your first language <what is btw? Just always admire and respect multilingual people>

First- A 60k mile 458 can be reliable <by Ferrari standards> if it has proper/documented maintenance history from either a certified dealer or certified independent. 458s are well-engineered cars- many 458 owners on here with either side of 100k miles.

Second- 458 vs Z06:

> 458 Is the last non-turbo/non-hybrid Pininfarina-designed mid-engine V8 Ferrari. 458s are FERRARIS and any Ferrari is special from an ownership experience standpoint.

> 458 will cost you more on maintenance and repairs- while they have relatively few issues, even normal maintenance is expensive on a Ferrari

> Z06 is a brand-new car and fully covered by warranty so definitely peace of mind and lower operating costs.

> Performance- They both far exceed the driving talent of most owners and driving either of them anywhere near their capability on public roads will land you in jail or in the hospital- or both. So all the lunchbox/magazine racing is irrelevant unless you plan on tracking the cars and developing your driving skills on a track.

> Sound- They both sound amazing!

> Looks- The Ferrari is art on wheels- The C8 desperately wants to look like a 458- To some its better looking / to others it falls short- totally subjective.

> Tesla- I wouldn't own any Tesla so can't weigh in- That said a lower mileage 458 + Model3 as the daily would be my choice of the options you laid out.

So- If you want and dream of owning A FERRARI and can deal with potentially unpredictable maintenance costs then go with a 458. If you are not that passionate about owning a Ferrari and just want the newest, "fastest", reasonably affordable sports car/exotic that is fully covered by warranty but not that passionate about the Marque/manufacturer then go with the Z06.

Cheers

 

Random question, does a Z06 have anything approaching CT Off? Traction control that allows for power slides while still active is a must have option in a street sports car for me.

 

Yes. PTM set to Race2 allows for hooliganism (or so I’m told).

 

Correction. 100hp. 2023 New Year’s Resolution: proofread more!

 

I'd note that your initial post of 200 crank hp more is probably about right, due to one manufacturer overstating and the other understating power. The 458 dyno results I've seen seem to average about 450 at the wheels, while reported C8 Z06 dynos are averaging around 630 at the wheels, for a 200 hp difference at the crank.

 

Around here the best answer is always “get both”

 

This is an odd comparison. 458 v. C8 Z06

They are such different cars, and really from different eras.

Buying a 458 is like going to a consignment store and finding a bespoke silk suit designed back when men still wore suits when flying commercial. Classical, with a hint of certain sartorial gravitas.

The C8 Z06 is like ordering a new Tom Ford suit off the rack, but nipped and tucked to your liking. More modern, newer, but lacks a bit of timeless panache -- if only because it's so new, but given time who knows.

Both great, just really depends what you want out of your wardrobe and car.

 

z06 v 458 is obvious comparison because chevy used 458 as benchmark for the z06. plenty of video of z06 mules driving around with 458 and a porsche gt2. plan was to have the emotions of the 458 with the performance of the gt2. i think chevy got the job done.

biggest problem is finding the right 458 to buy. how do you avoid rental, flood, etc cars? cannot trust carfax or dealer. need a one owner car (which is hens tooth) and even then dont know if can trust seller. who wants to pay $200k for a 10 year old ferrari and then have dct go bad for another $30k.

but then again good luck finding a z06 to buy. multi year long wait list and resales asking $150k over sticker.

 

Though I really love ferrari,I don't have enough money to buy low mileage Ferrari 458 italia.Is 458 with 60k+ mileage still reliable?

What is a good 458 these days $200k? If you can get a 2023 Z06 you are going to pay more than $200k for it.

Is Flat plane Crank V8 from Z06 really sound like 458's Flat Plane Crank V8? Best way to tell is go drive both. Second best way google it. Third best way ask guys on internet to describe sound.

Is C8 Z06 American Ferrari? No.

Should I sell my current Daily Tesla S plaid to Afford low mileage 2014 458 + Used Tesla Model 3. Sell Plaid buy 458 daily 458 send me thank you card.

 

458. Easy

$200k for a corvette no thanks…. Unless you already have a garage full of other Ferraris and it’s just a toy

I had a corvette. A 1999 c5. Loved it, fantastic car. Then I had 2 different Porsche 911’s… loved those too. But they were because I couldn’t afford a Ferrari yet. Would never spend Ferrari money to go backwards.

 

I’d easily spend $175K for a 670 hp FPC screaming midengined sports car that can smoke a 458 and have Bluetooth apply car play and wireless charging with vented seats and an AC that can keep you cool with top down on a sunny 95 degree FL day. It’s sound system will blow away anything you’ll find in a 458 as well when not listening to the engine at 8600 rpm. Oh, and has enough storage for your golf clubs and a suitcase or two when going on a golf trip with your buddies. Backed by a full warranty too.
Yep…you’re right. Easy choice.

 

Can you get a $175k Z06 though?

 

Also doesn't it speak volumes that we are comparing a 13 year old entry level Ferrari to a brand new top of the line Chevy?

 

If you want to dust both cars and nothing else matters, I'd recommend a Tesla Plaid. The Z06 isn't anywhere as fast as you say it is, at least not the manufacturer numbers. It would barely edge out a 458 in 0-60 and is 1 second at most faster in the 1/4 mile. Top end, the 458 is the one leaving the Z06 in the rear view mirror.

From Car and Driver: "It's no surprise that the significantly more powerful Z06 beats the 458 in a straight line, with a 2.6-second run to 60 mph and a quarter-mile run of 10.5 seconds at 131 mph. But the Ferrari isn't far behind, as it reached the same trap speed in the quarter mile and was only 0.4 second behind in the run to 60 mph"

No one in a Z06 will be looking at a 458 dot in their rear view mirror. Kudo's for GM for coming to the table with something completely new to them.

 

Case and point

 

I am a car enthusiast and love several brands; currently have a Pista (and a few F cars in the past). I would vote for the Z06 if you can get one. Although the 458 might give you bragging rights,I would worry about maintenance and it is dated in my opinion. The Z06 comes with an attractive warranty and is highly in demand at this time. As mentioned by others do your due diligence and don’t worry about attention. You will get plenty from the rice bangers that will want to race you.

 

Yes, also a $5 casio watch keeps better time than an expensive handmade piece too, but is that the point?

Of course a Chevy is a better daily driver with more comforts. But nobody buys a 458 to daily drive it

The newer Ferraris are better for every day..

Yes. What’s a 13 year old Chevy that’s $200k?

 

I like corvettes and have been seriously looking into one. I like the z06 or even eray. They’re good looking to my eye and have great performance. Cheap to own and you can thrash them and warranty will fix it. No rolling the dice like Ferrari’s coverage. I’m waiting on my 296 and artura. My artura was supposed to be delivered back in November but just was informed that it won’t be here until June. Probably because of that fueling issue. Heck, I even like the gt500. With interest rates what they are I think the vette and stang crowd will fade hard.

I’m a self admitted car pig. I like my Chevy pickups and am as comfortable in them as my Ferrari, sto or Porsches. If it moves me, I don’t give a rats ass what other people think or status or any of that ****. Plan to do some light restoration on my 1967 stingray this spring.
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Not that I really care, just having fun with a debate here…but…the C7 Z06 smoked the Speciale on Big Willow times, not even close. The C8 Z06 offers more performance than the C7, and the Italia has less than the Speciale on a track. So, yes..the C8 Z06 would absolutely destroy an Italia on a track where performance is about acceleration, power, braking and handling combined.
Listen, like I said…I don’t really care..I love Ferraris and have owned and do still own some fabulous Ferraris but I can see thru the BS of Ferrari people looking down on the ‘vette..it comes out of their own insecurities about their peacocking car (I’m guilty too), their large expenditures (also guilty here of that too) and the simple fact that a vette is as amazing sports car at a much lower price.
And to the comparison to a Casio by someone here…no..not Casio..but rather Grand Seiko…an amazing mechanical watch for a lot less than a Swiss equivalent.

 

It’s good for a company like Chevrolet to disrupt the field by making a “better” cheaper car. It keeps the super car companies honest and in the end they will have to up their game and we will get better cars.