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458 Speciale Novitec Exhaust

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  1. Lagunae92

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    Are any Speciale owners currently using a Novitec back box? I'm most interested in the Novitec Inconel Race (no valves). Looking for thoughts on improvement to the sound.
     
  2. FFan5

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    I'm using Kline Inconel and love it. The X-pipe should be mandatory on these cars, the stock H-pipe is pretty terrible.
     
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  3. Lagunae92

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    I would think it makes it a bit more sonorous than stock.
     
  4. FFan5

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    I love the car, but the stock exhaust is lacking. It doesn't change pitch. With an X-pipe, you have more a rumble down low and a scream at 8k+. With stock, you have a rumble that gets progressively louder, but doesn't really change pitch much.
     
  5. Lagunae92

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    It’s a step up from my Pista, but I want more dynamism from the exhaust. X pipe exhaust should help a ton. Do you need sport cats? I’m not necessarily looking for a lot louder.
     
  6. FFan5

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    I don't know for sure, but I've been told you only need the X pipe in order to get the pitch changes. Messing with the cats and header only change the volume.
    Note: If you put in an x-pipe, have it heat shielded. It'll sit much closer to the diffuser/bumper than the stock H-pipe.
     
  7. Lagunae92

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    I would love to hear from someone only running the X pipe. I'm inclined to put the income Novitec Race pipe, without valves because I'll likely not touch the cats. Valved exhausts lose some character to non-valved even when open (or so I've read). I don't think it'll be too loud since I drive with valves open all of the time anyway. Needs the X pipe for pitch!
     
  8. Rory breaker

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    1000% the Novitec Inconel line is the best on the market. I have headers back and it’s an absolute symphony.
     
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    Have any sound clips? I imagine you went valved as well!
     
  10. Rory breaker

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    No valves :) It is LOUD. Sounds like an F1 car. Wouldn’t have it any other way for this car.
    The biggest difference I notice between a standard setup and inconel is in the very high RPMs. The inconel absolutely shrieks. It has a high pitched tone that sounds like nothing else on the road. Paired with a 458/F12/812 - there’s nothing like it.

    Get the full package, get Inconel, and enjoy one of the best sounding cars of all time!
     
  11. Lagunae92

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    Have any sound clips?
     
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  12. Sean@TAG

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    Here's a video we took of a 458 Speciale Aperta we did a Novitec Race Exhaust, Novitec Nose Lift and some other parts on. Honestly, one of our favorite-sounding cars that has ever come through our shop.

     
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    Was it a good volume from just the back unit with no flaps?
     
  14. Sean@TAG

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    Oh it's a great volume with an awesome exotic tone from the x-pipe! Really the main difference is the Race Exhaust will be that level of rowdy all the time, whereas the valved version of the exhaust gives you the option to really quiet it down if you want to. With the valves-open the sound will be similar between the two exhaust options.
     
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    Being in SoCal, I don’t think I can get away with doing sport cats and not having a valve, so hoping the no valve version is enough.
     
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    This is what it sounds like - compare this to the TAG video for a good audible difference between just exhaust vs headers & hi flow cats/test pipe & full exhaust.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/5cTlSbS6Mg0

    2 things I notice from videos and from the drivers seat:

    - the “shriek” at high rpm’s that only the full Novitec setups deliver. There’s an “11” on a 10 pt scale of glorious noise that only those cars make as they approach redline. In person especially it’s night/day. The non-full setup cars have more of a grunt, a low end scruff, that the full setup cars do not.

    - the whip crack downshifts - the sound is intoxicating. It’s not so much a backfire or a crack back, it’s like the sound of a whip cracking as you downshift…as the RPMs then drop after the downshift there’s an audible exhale from the system that will literally give you goosebumps in a tunnel or a confined space. It’s nuts.

    Highly recommended. It’s hard to justify bc the inconel system is so much more expensive than stainless and it compounds when you’re getting a full setup, but there’s a difference and if you’re a “go all the way or go home” person in this department, you won’t regret it.
     
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    So are you talking 458 Italia or Speciale? Italia sounds better overall I think.
     
  18. Rory breaker

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    The difference in sound I’m referring to is the difference between a full inconel setup vs exhaust only. The Italia sounds better because it has the full inconel setup vs just the exhaust on the speciale. If the speciale had the full setup it would sound just as good. Don’t get me wrong, any of the exhaust mods we are talking about will improve the audible experience over stock. But the full Novitec setup in Inconel has no peers as far as Ferrari V8 & V12’s go, in my opinion.
     
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    We're located in SoCal too :D as was our client with the yellow 458 SA in the video, so they had the same consideration. That sound is the Race X-Pipe with OEM cats.

    Let us know if you want to discuss the options. We're here to help!
     
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    Thanks. Is it much louder than stock? Or just a different pitch with the x pipe. If I want to do cats eventually, I’d probably better choose valved, but with inspection every two years, it sounds like a hassle. If non-valved is a better tone and decent volume, it’s the way for me.
     
  21. Sean@TAG

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    It certainly adds some volume as well. We are a fan of the non valved X-pipe :)
     
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    Bringing up an old thread as I still haven't made a decision.

    I am thinking three options:
    1. Novitec Inconel Race X pipe no valves
    2. Novitec Incenel Race X pipe no valves with Capristo 250cell cats
    3. Novitec Inconel Valved Exhaust with Novitec 100cell cats

    Is there a tremendous difference between 100 and 250 cell sport cats? My fear with using a valved exhaust is it not sounding as good and high pitched as the race exhaust without valves. Though, surrounding areas seem to have a problem with louder exhausts and are ticketing as such. Also, some say performance is lessened with the valveless exhaust and reduction of back pressure. Sound is more important to me for this car.
     
  23. Sean@TAG

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    We are 100% all for the Novitec full system with their sport cats and X pipe rear section. It is just a killer sound!!!
     
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    Will valved when open differ from non-valved?
     
  25. Sean@TAG

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    Not super significantly, but the X pipe seems to have a better tone overall.
     

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