does it hold true to the 12/17 MPG city sticker?
First thing to realize is that 458 owners don't care about MPG, especially when they are enthralled in the thrill of experiencing their 458 during the first 600 milles break in period. Second thing to realize is that during the break in period the owners are just waiting to tromp it, to feel the wild surge the 458 offers. Such surges are, of course, antithetical to obtaining good gas mileage. Third thing, which reveals you arn't a F car owner, is that nobody who buys an 100% impractical car like a 458 cares a ding about gas mileage.
This may not always be the case. I care what mileage my 360 gets solely so I know how far I can go and because what the window stickers says and what I get are two totally different numbers.
I've never owned a car that I could not get 15% above the window sticker numbers. As an example, my F355 is supposed to get 17 MPG on the highway, and I can get 22 on a good day, 21 on a not so good day. {I also get less than 6.5 at the race track.}
True that. If 458 is used as a daily driver, then you could calculate the mileage but driving on short bursts on weekends would not really allow you to get the MPG as in daily driver cars. I would say I'm getting about 8~10 MPG right now although I've driven only 100, from the fuel gauge, I would say 8~10 as of right now.
I can, I have a few F cars and I always care about the MPG of the car - It's one of the most important facts for me when I drive my cars - I can get 25MPG on the HWY with my 996TT - If I am touring I want to know if I can get 150 miles or 400 miles out of a tank with intermediate fun with the car. As many of you know when You drive around in these cars the "practical" aspects quickly come into play. Cars you have to fill up every 150 miles annoy me after the "thrill" is gone. INMHO List of things that I thought as Foolish prior to owning many of these cars however that I quickly realized as essential: 1. Rear Visibility - always read about this as a kid and thought "who cares!!! your driving a Countach", drove in one around a busy area once and went straight back to the dealer - very scary driving around in a car with no vis. 2. Comfort, AC, Radio, etc - they really are nice to have in an exotic, for me essential. 3. MPG - when you are touring better range is ALWAYS much better, I told my wife the other day "I am sick of filling cars up at gas stations" AK
I will never get used to the arrogant remarks of some Ferrari owners... (and yes, I am a Ferrari owner, but I don't see why I should be proud of it)
Ha Ha, perhaps after this thread he won't want to be. I think its a good question, do you think it's foolish to ask what range a personal plane/jet gets or boat/yacht? HA HA, do you think that the engineers at Ferrari worry about MPG at the only thing Enzo every cared about in regards to his company - A F1 Race? MPG is a very important statistic with these cars, and the higher the better. I'm personally sick of watching my fuel gauge go down when getting on my > 9MPG 550. Rant over, sorry bad week.
I wouldn't equate an airplane to a Ferrari because one is a mode of transportation, not for racing, pure driving enjoyment, and showing off. Plus, when one runs out of gas it crashes whereas the other rolls to a stop. If the OP is concerned about range, then he should look into fitting the car with a larger gas tank.You'd think that the $3000 gas guzzler tax would be enough to scare away anyone who is concerned about gas mileage.
For me a Ferrari is NOT for showing off & quickly becomes a mode of transportation, also the 458 is a GT car "grand touring". I have gone into remote areas with no gas stations around and I need to know what my range is in my car - granted I won't crash however it's a MAJOR pain in the azz to run out of gas I would imagine (haven't yet). My only point is I think it's a fair question.
Maybe rawtubor's reply comes across as somewhat arrogant but let's put a different spin on it. I think what he's saying is that a very large majority of owners -- most of whom will put low kms on their cars, take short jaunts, and haven't owned their 4598s that long -- probably have little or no idea of actual mpg. From my experience, about all they will be certain of is the gas tank indictor (a digital read) shows shrinking gas supply fast when driving around town and it costs a lot to fill the tank (eg., $100cdn for top grade). I also think he's alluding to mental attitudes that seem to accompany owning an F car. The very large majority of owners -- who don't use them as daily drivers -- know they are highly impractical, costly to maintain, outrageously expensive to repair if crashed, and really, really poor on gas. I've had Porsches in which I'm very aware of gas mileage, calculated on long trips just for fun -- whereas I have no real clue of the exact gas mileage on any of the F cars I've owned. I just know they guzzle gas and it empties my wallet. Nor do I recall having a conversation with any other F owner about exact measures of gas milleage on their F cars -- we all know its bad. Anyway, just my 2 cents.
I really don't get what all the fuss is about: My DD is a 600HP behemoth that weighs almost 5500 pounds and gets probably less than 12 MPG on average, and has about a 22-gallon tank but because it only gets about 5K miles per year, filling up isn't something I have to do every day and so is no big deal. The threat of running out of gas is non-existent in my mind so I don't give it a second thought. If the OP is going to put lots of miles on his 458 and use it as a DD, then having to fill up every other day and drop nearly $100 each time can get old pretty fast. I don't know what the alternative is (except to wait for the Porsche 918 Spyder which can get 78 MPG on its 200HP+ electric motors, but expect to pay 1.5 times the cost of the 458 to get into one).
This thread is a joke. The original poster simply asked what gas mileage 458 owners have observed. If folks on here don't feel like answering that question, then they should simply move along to another thread. Wasting everyone's time and indeed Rob's bandwidth on useless commentary totally extraneous and irrelevant to the simple, technical question he asked is absurd. I am interested also in what gas mileage 458 owners have observed. I'm not interested in being told things I already know or I don't care about. I imagine most others feel the same.