458 - buying ??? what year to stay away from

What you have heard may be true, I do not know. I bought my 2010 458 in 2010 and I still own the car. My 458 to date has not given me any problems.

I heard on this forum that the later cars do not have the pops and sound of the 2010 or 11s

good luck with your purchase.

Lee

 

I was once told 2010, 2012-2015 are the best bet and to avoid the '11. The 2012 and later come with the seven year maintenance plan. That alone must be worth getting a later model.

 

You're going to be shocked at the asking prices. Low mileage 2010 and 2011 coupes still asking 190k to 210k and keep in mind these MSRPs were only 240k to 270k on average.

That's right you're looking at a 25% depreciation over 4 to 5 years. It doesn't make sense to me. The only thing I can think of is once it breaks the 200k barrier people mentally think it's a good buy, even though it's out of warranty and is technically 4 or 5 years old technology too.

Please let us know how you do. I was looking to get back into a 458 coupe after selling my spider but the pricing just isn't right yet for me.

 

^^^^ that probably bc ferrari weren't sold at msrp lol

 

Scroll down to pick up the fairly regular identical threads eg http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/458-italia-488/500086-advice-buying-used-italia.html

 

The transmission is the same in all 458 models years according to my dealer, only a few 2010's had a transmission issue which was repaired early in production, In fact both my local Ferrari dealers have never had to replace a 458 trans and we have several high mileage 458's in my area.

Bottom line is the 458 is one of the most reliable Ferrari's ever made and you can't go wrong with any year, just look for your best deal.

And again this info is straight from two Ferrari dealers.

 

I owned a 2011 for 3 years no problems.

 

Used 488's will bring over MSRP for several years.

 

ferrari changed the programming for the gearbox in 2012+ coupes (more aggressive shifts in race mode). The hardware stayed the same.

 

2 hours of labour a year. And you think that is worth extra dosh? I have the "free maintenance" but it is a red herring. Sounds great until you actually look at what they offer for that.

I am not aware of any particular issues with any model years. They did change the software for the gearbox so from MY2012 it has a bit more of a 'kick' (too many complaints from Scuderia owners that liked that), like koop mentioned. And they fixed the glue issue that cause a fire on a couple of very early production cars. Not much else.


Onno

 

With all due respect--that would be unprecedented. I highly doubt a several year old used 488 will be over MSRP. Several year old 16Ms just finally got above MSRP and they made only 499 of them (same for the CS/Scud although obviously higher numbers).

More likely--you will see similar depreciation as the 458, or 430, or 360 that came before.

What is your reasoning for thinking the 488 will be different? Are you predicting people will love the turbo that much?

 

I heard that while this 'improved' shifts in Race mode, it also significantly reduced the burbles & pops during downshifts. This is the reason I've NOT had them do the campaign/upgrade to my 2011. The current sound during downshifts is amazing!!!

FWIW, when I was purchasing, I asked a similar question and no one said to avoid 2011s.

 

When the 360, 430 and 458 first came out, the used ones brought over MSRP for a year or 2 after first being introduced. At my dealer a walk in customer for a 488 is 3 years out. I paid 20k over for my 2011 458. 4 years old it only deprecated 20 percent.

My point is waiting for a 488 to depreciate much will be a long game. YMMV

 

Which country are you in? Jim is correct. In the USA every new model v8 fetches over MSRP for at least 2-3 years. You don't see depreciation until end of year 3 and certainly year 4-5. Happened for the 430 in 2005/06/07 and the 458 in 2010/11/12. This will be true (pending some eccnomic collapse) for the 488 in 2016/2017 and 2018. It's all about supply and demand. The USA is much slower in delivery than the rest of the world.

 

RCorsa, so your opinion based it seems on past experience that's it better to buy new when possible, it lowers the loss as depreciation is lower in the 1st years of a models existance?

 

I have a 2013 so don't have comparison, but permanently opening my valves certainly made a huge difference in the sound of the downshifts.

I have never had the privilege of driving in an earlier version but hopefully someday.

I would agree though that was a slight disappointment before I opened the valves especially coming from a 430.
It's a lot better now though.


Car:

2013 Ferrari 458 Spider- Daily Driver

 

I meant to add at lower speeds I was referring to.

The car was fine at higher speeds but I want it all to my liking.


Car:

2013 Ferrari 458 Spider- Daily Driver

 

I think this time is the best moment to buy a 458 italia or spider

In few monthes the keen interest for the 488 will be over and we will realize that the 458 is the best Ferrari ever built

Last Pininfarina, last visceral NA engine and great reliability, last harsh upshifts

458 value will raise

 

458 is a great car. With exception of the Special A the 458 isn't going to rise in value.
They made thousands.

 

Several does not mean two or three in most English speaking countries (that would be a couple or a few) .

Looks like you agree with me except for you "several" means a "couple" .

Has nothing to do with "what country I live in". Although I have a close familiarity with cars in the UK and the US. Maybe in your country "several" usually means 2?

If you or who I responded to thinks the 488 will trade above MSRP in 6 years in the US I am happy to take a friendly wager. Frankly I doubt it will be above MSRP after three years but there is a small chance.

 

You are silly. Probably a teanager in your parents basement. Not a real owner. Go away little boy.

 

Wow.. Mature (and classy) response. The personal insult is a nice touch. Really does speak for you.

Would you like to make a wager on that too? Let's see if you will put your money where your mouth is.... Pretty easy, unfortunately painfully easy, to confirm I am not a "teenager" and Ferrari ownership proof is easy as well.

Although weather or not someone owns a Ferrari or their country of residency seems to have little to do with whether what you wrote makes sense or not.

I am sorry the word "several" does not mean what you wish it to mean. But I guess even a "teenager" or "little boy", as you claim I am, would know that..


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