430 Scuderia Rotor Options

So, I recently started looking into possibly replacing my stock CCM rotors, as I plan to track my car quite a bit more. Anyway, I thought as long as I'm going to be comparing brands anyway that I would share what I found with all of you. Feel free to correct me or suggest other brands or kits.

Carbon:

1. Stock CCM
Size- 398mm x 36mm (Front), 350mm x 34mm (Rear)
Weight- 13.6lbs (Front), 10.2lbs (Rear)
Vanes- 30 (Front), 30 (Front)
Modifications- None
Price- $13,800 (Front), $12,400 (Rear)

2. RacingBrake
Size- 394mm x 36mm (Front), 350 x 34mm (Rear)
Weight- 15lbs. (Front), 11lbs. (Rear)
Vanes- 30 (Front), 30 (Rear)
Modifications- None
Price- $6,500 (Front), $5,800 (Rear)
RB CCM-X Rotors for Ferrari F430 Scuderia & Challenge Front
RB CCM-X Rotors for for Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale & F430 (incl. Scuderia & 430 Challenge) Rear

3. Surface Transforms (not available in the U.S. until April)
Size- 398mm x 36mm (Front), 350mm x 34mm (Rear)
Weight- 13.6lbs. (Front), 9.9lbs. (Rear)
Vanes- 30 (Front), 30 (Rear)
Modifications- None are required. Upgraded brake pads (Pagid RSC1 for street and Pagid RS29 for track) are recommended.
Price- $11,998 (4 rotors and OE hats)
Contact Gavin Riches ([email protected])

Steel Replacement:

1. GiroDisc
Size- 398mm x 36mm (Front), 350mm x 34mm (Rear)
Weight- 27lbs. (Front), 21lbs. (Rear)
Vanes- 72 (Front), 48 (Rear)
Modifications- New pads are required
Price- $1,750 (Front), $1,650 (Rear) (Competition Motorsports is currently having a sale that goes until March 15th where you can get both front and rear rotors plus Pagid RS29 brake pads for $3,399.15 (with FREE shipping and no sales tax))
Giro Disc a1110 2 piece rotors Ferrari 430 Scuderia
Giro Disc a2110 2 piece rotors Ferrari 430 Scuderia

2. AP Racing (Essex Designed AP Racing 2-piece Competition J Hook Disc)
Size- 398mm x 36mm (Front), 350mm x 34mm (Rear)
Weight- 28lbs. (Front), 23lbs. (Rear)
Vanes- 84 (Front), 72 (Rear)
Modifications- None
Price- $1,898 (Front), $1,798 (Rear)
Essex Designed AP Racing 2-piece Competition J Hook Disc Pair (Front 398x36mm)- Ferrari 430 Scuderia
Essex Designed AP Racing 2-piece Competition J Hook Disc Pair (Rear 350x34mm)- Ferrari 430 Scuderia

3. Brembo (GT) (Type 3)
Size- 405mm x 34mm (Front), 380mm x 32mm (Rear)
Weight (Disc only)- 29.7lbs. (Front), 19.3lbs. (Rear), Weight (Entire kit)- 48.4lbs. (Front), 41.5lbs (Rear)
Vanes- 72 (Front), 48 (Rear)
Modifications- This kit includes new calipers. Also, Jason from Exotica Motorsports noted that he didn't think this kit would fit under the stock wheels without a spacer either. In addition, the stock hand-brake calipers must be replaced with ones from an iron disk model for the hand-brake to function correctly.
Price- $4,699.20 (Front), $5,467.20 (Rear)
https://www.vividracing.com/catalog/brembo-405x34-2piece-piston-type-front-big-brake-kit-ferrari-f430-scuderia-0809-p-150894071.html
https://www.vividracing.com/catalog/brembo-380x32-2piece-piston-type-rear-big-brake-kit-ferrari-f430-scuderia-0809-p-150894151.html

Brembo (GT-R) (Type 3)
Size- 405mm x 34mm (Front), 380mm x 32mm (Rear)
Weight- I've contacted Brembo and dealers but haven't heard back yet. I will add those figures if/when I receive them.
Vanes- 72 (Front), 48 (Rear)
Modifications- This kit includes new calipers. Also, Jason from Exotica Motorsports noted that he didn't think this kit would fit under the stock wheels without a spacer. In addition, the stock hand-brake calipers must be replaced with ones from an iron disk model for the hand-brake to function correctly.
Price- $8,923.20 (Front), $9,595.20 (Rear)
https://www.vividracing.com/catalog/brembo-gtr-inch-piston-2pc-front-drilled-big-brake-kit-ferrari-f430-scuderia-0809-p-130133.html?osCsid=42t8ngagma1f7f7l3itjehmbd3
https://www.vividracing.com/catalog/brembo-gtr-inch-piston-2pc-rear-drilled-big-brake-kit-ferrari-f430-scuderia-0809-p-130134.html?osCsid=42t8ngagma1f7f7l3itjehmbd3

4. RacingBrake (Iron 2-piece Rotor)
Size- 400 x 34mm (Front), 350 x 34mm (Rear)
Weight- 25.8lbs. (Front), 21.1lbs. (Rear)
Vanes- 36 inner, 54 outer (Front), 36 inner, 54 outer (Rear)
Modifications- Stock pads must be trimmed or a new pad used
Price- $2,997 (Front), $1,395 (Rear), $3,852 (Complete Set)
Two-piece Rotor - Ferrari 430 Scuderia / Spider 16M (Iron Repl.)
IronTwo-piece rotor replacement (Open Slot) - Ferrari 350x34mm Rear
RB Iron Two-Piece Rotor Kit Replacing OE CCM Rotors (P/N 2347 & 2349)

I hope this is helpful for at least some of you and, as I mentioned above, please correct me if I have a value incorrect or have misstated something. My intent for this post was to accurately present each brand and it's offerings, so corrections will not hurt my feelings at all.

Note #1- I have put numbers next to each option simply for numbering purposes. The numbers do not denote that I hold one manufacturer in higher regard than any other.

Note #2- Contrary to what some have said, MOV'IT does not offer a carbon braking system for the Scuderia at this time, only a steel kit for the F430.

Note #3- There have been previous posts about the GiroDisc front rotors being 405mm. That rotor is a previous generation one that has been phased out by the manufacturer. The new ones are 398mm, just like stock.

 

Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I'll contact them and find out what U.S. shipping costs would be like and what sort of turn around time they have.

Also, I'm glad to hear that you are enjoying your Girodisc rotors! I don't think I've ever heard a negative experience from anyone who has used their products which says a lot about the company.

 

Will do. One of the things I'm interested in is how many times this refurbishment process could be done.

For instance, in my talks with Gavin Riches, Surface Transforms' U.S. representative, he told me that Surface Transforms' discs are able to be “refurbished” about 4-5 times for the price of $2,500 including shipping (turnaround time is about 3 weeks including transportation). In addition, their discs are supposed to last about twice as long as our OEM ones.

If you're interested in that option, I strongly recommend that you contact, Gavin. He’s extremely knowledgeable and very personable. In addition, he owns and frequently tracks a Porsche Cup car, so he has real world knowledge of this type of technology.

Gavin Riches
Office- 239-432-1700
Cell- 239-851-5367
E-mail- [email protected]
14498 S. Tamiami Trail, Fort Myers, Florida 33912

 

Terry,

Thanks for the reply. It's interesting that you mention this because when I contacted MOV'IT myself, they informed me that they didn't have a kit available. In addition, their representative didn't even bring up replacement discs. See the message below:

I'll contact them again and specifically ask them about replacement discs.

 

I've seen it mentioned as well. For instance, the rotors are discussed in this Racing Brake thread:

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/360-430-sponsored-yellow-compass-group/479725-brake-options-f430-scuderia-ccm-iron-we-have-both.html

Also, in this thread where Terry says they can be used but F430GT refutes his claim:

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/360-430-sponsored-yellow-compass-group/398436-swedish-430-scuderia-owners-moving-steel-brakes.html

I know for sure that Racing Brake doesn't use them currently as their carbon rotors are supplied by Surface Transforms.

As for the Taurino Racing option, I'll look into it.

 

I'm glad to hear that. As I mentioned earlier, Girodisc seems to be a terrific option for anyone looking for a steel replacement rotor.

 

Update:

The Racing Brake (RB) carbon rotors can be refurbished.
Cost- $400/rotor excluding shipping and handling
Leadtime 4-5 wks (1. Rotors are sent to RB 2. RB disassembles them and sends only the discs to Surface Transforms (ST) in the UK 3. Once the discs are refurbished, ST sends them back to RB 4. RB reassembles the rotors and ships them back to you)

I have gotten in contact with Tom from MOV'IT USA and he confirms that they do offer a steel and carbon disc replacement. Currently, I'm just waiting on him to provide me with the specifications of each option.

I have contacted Sicom but have not received a reply yet.

 

Thank you for the information, Terry. Is this the correct thread that you are referring to?
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/456-550-575-sponsored-bradan/298460-movit-ceramic-brakes-arrived-today.html

If so, I noticed that you started that thread in 2010. I bring that up because in the literature Tom sent me, MOV'IT is on their 3rd generation of rotors, so I'm wondering if you know what generation your rotors are.

Concerning the Corvette rotors, I'm glad that you were able to clarify that they do work. So, let me see if I understand you correctly. 1. The stock Scud pads, hats, and calipers are all compatible with the Corvette rotor 2. All that is needed is the friction rings from the Corvette for all of this to work together

 

Terry,

According to Tom in the thread about your MOV'IT brake kit, you have the 2nd generation brake kit.

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/456-550-575-sponsored-bradan/298460-movit-ceramic-brakes-arrived-today-4.html

Also, see the attached image from the brochure Tom sent me.

Concerning the RB/ZR1 kit, I was able to find it on their website using the search function and have emailed them about. In addition, I found a complete brake kit (calipers, rotors, hats, brake lines, brake fluid, etc.) with 410x36 front discs and 390x32 rears that RB claims will fit the stock Scud wheels. Not surprisingly, I've emailed them about it to confirm.
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You're welcome. You've been a huge help with this thread so I'm glad I could provide some information to you for once.

Concerning your rear rotors, based on your photos here:

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/456-550-575-sponsored-bradan/298460-movit-ceramic-brakes-arrived-today-10.html

I would presume that they are 2nd Generation as well due to the fact that they have only one set of vanes on the outer edge of the rotors. If you look at the image that I posted in my last reply, it looks like the 3rd Gen rotors have two sets of vanes on the outer edge of the rotors.

 

Update:

SICOM has gotten back with me.

1. They claim that they have Scuderia rotors in stock and that they are ready to ship.
2. The prices are 950€ (~$1,530) (Front) and 890€ (~$987) (Rear) for each disc.
3. Shipping to the U.S. for all four discs via DHL express is 100€ (~$111).
4. They require a deposit and it is 700€ (~$777) for each disc.
5. They want you to remove your hats before sending your discs.

So, the process goes like this:

1. You inform SICOM that would like newly refurbished discs and send them a deposit and payment. (The payment can be with a credit card.)
2. You remove your hats from your discs and ship the discs to SICOM.
3. Once your payment in step 1 clears, SICOM immediately sends you rotors that they have already been refurbished. Once your rotors get to SICOM and they inspect them and confirm that they are in good shape, they refund your deposit.

I have also heard from Racing Brake.

Racing Brake offers two more kits for those that would like to keep using carbon rotors.

1. RB/ZR1 CCM Rotors for Ferrari 430 Scuderia (Front)
Size- 394x36mm
Weight- 14lbs
Vanes- 30
Modifications- None
Price- $5,400
RB/ZR1 CCM Rotors for Ferrari 430 Scuderia (Front)

This is a front rotor only kit that utilizes the Corvette ZR1's discs and RB's own hat. Also, RB does not offer a service for refurbishing these rotors (I guess you could use SICOM if you go this route).

2. RB Calipers & Rotor Package for Ferrari 430 Scuderia, 430 16M & F430 Challenge

Size- 410x36mm (Front), 390x32mm (Rear)
Weight- 14lbs (Front), 10lbs (Rear)
Vanes- 30 (Front), 30 (Rear)
Modifications- None
Price- $20,950
RB Calipers & Rotor Package for Ferrari 430 Scuderia, 430 16M & F430 Challenge (P/N 2C53 & 2C54)

This is a complete brake kit and includes:
2 RB 6-piston caliper (7075-T6 forged aluminum alloy)
2 RB 4-piston rear caliper (6061-T6 forged aluminum alloy)
2 Front CCM-X Rotor (410x36mm - Surface Transforms specifically made to RB specs)
2 Rear CCM-X Rotor (390x32mm - Surface Transforms specifically made to RB specs)
2 Rear aluminum spacers
1 Car set brake pads
1 Car set SS brake lines
8 M12x1.5 alloy steel caliper mounting bolts
4 Bottle 1/2 liter Motul RBF600 Brake Fluid

These rotors can be refurbished.

On top of all this, I finally heard back from an actual Brembo employee, so hopefully I'll be able to get exact numbers for the GT-R kit.

 

MOV'IT brake options:

Steel

Size- 380x32 (Front), 380x32 (Rear)
Weight- 29 lbs (Front), 28 lbs (Rear)
Vanes- 64 (Front), 64 (Rear)
Modifications- This is a complete kit and includes new calipers.
Price- $5,628 (Front), $5,628 (Rear)

Size- 396x36 (Front), 380x32 (Rear)
Weight- 31 lbs (Front), 28 lbs (Rear)
Vanes- 64 (Front), 64 (Rear)
Modifications- This is a complete kit and includes new calipers.
Price- $5,766 (Front), $5,628 (Rear)

Carbon Kits

Size- 380x40 (Front), 380x32 (Rear)
Weight- 12 lbs (Front), 11 lbs (Rear)
Vanes- 28 (Front), 28 (Rear)
Modifications- This is a complete kit and includes new calipers.
Price- $9,107 (Front), $9,526 (Rear)

Size- 396x40 (Front), 380x32 (Rear)
Weight- 13 lbs (Front), 11 lbs (Rear)
Vanes- 28 (Front), 28 (Rear)
Modifications- This is a complete kit and includes new calipers.
Price- $9,385 (Front), $9,526 (Rear)

Carbon Replacement Rotors

Size- 380x34 (Front), 350x34 (Rear)
Weight- 11 lbs (Front), 10.5 lbs (Rear)
Vanes- 28 (Front), 28 (Rear)
Modifications- None
Price- $6,768 (Front), $6,560 (Rear)

If you're interested in any of these options, contact Tom Frederico.
Email- [email protected]
Phone- 858-883-2655