430 Scuderia Front End knock noise

Is it a knock or a body creak or pop noise?

 

Flamblocs

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I don't know if it will help, but JayEmm on Cars on YouTube had several videos about the subject.

 

It can be a number of things including anti roll bar bushes, the lower suspension strut bolt, or flamblocs.

They all make a slightly different knock: ARB bushes sound more hollow, flamblocks like a thud, and the bolts sharper and louder.

Really it's better to diagnose these things in person.

 

Jack up a front wheel on the sill, high enough to get a low trolley under the tyre. Jack up the tyre and see if you feel any movement in the flamblocs. As you have done the ball joints, its the only thing left if you are getting over the bumps, apart from the shock absorber fixing points. If its the shock fixing point you might see that at the same time

 

I had what sounds the same on my 360. Turned out to be some loose sub frame bolts on the right side

 

Its the flamblocs. I went through much expense at the dealer replacing various parts that never fixed the problem...steering rack bushings, sway bar endlinks, lower suspension strut bolts, ball joints, tightening various suspension bolts, etc.
I finally took it to 7 Lakes Automotive and Mark inspected, drove and checked everything and determined it was the flamblocs. Rather than use more of the problem prone oem, he used ones made for the Scuderia from Superformance UK.

 

Jayemm had a persistent knock that he finally thinks he solved in new video today … quite interesting for scud owners

 

He's absolutely right that anytime you lift or unweight the car, it can take 80 to 150 miles for the knock to come back...which makes diagnosis harder.
I had good luck with having the flamblocs replaced on the front a few years ago (as mentioned above), but in the past month and a half the knock has come back, but only on the left front.

Time will tell if this is truly the solution. I will probably get this done after driving season is over.
Its cheap enough to give it a try. I did replace the lower shock bolts he mentioned a few years ago, but that alone didn't help.

 

Onya Ferrari another great quality product. All that weight carried on them four poxy p#ss weak shocky bushes. I have just switched ova to delrin lower shok bushes not had chance to drive the car yet.

 

I’ve changed the upper and lower flamblocs, upper and lower ball joints with hill engineering, and drop links and while it reduced the knocking that was consistently present during driving, I still have intermittent knocking sound that comes from the passenger side footwell/tire well area. The knocking occurs over very bumpy roads or when hitting manhole covers.

the video by jayemm was definitely informative. I will need to take a look at the shock bushings to see if that’s the culprit.

 

I believe Jayem’s analysis is incorrect or premature. True, this flamboc is the same one on the 355. It is a monoball bushing. I just changed it out on my 355 dampers with 3ok miles. They weren’t beat, but I decided to change it out for that new car feel. It’s hard for them to go very bad on a 355, even after all these years.


On my Scud around 25k miles, all the flambocs were shot. Scud is simply a more hardcore car beating on these soft bushings that are designed to provide some level of street comfort. Replaced with all new OE flambocs and everything is good again. On a 6k mi Scud, these flambocs should still be good. Sound must be coming from elsewhere.

The Superformance flamboc is NOT a monoball bushing. It’s a downgrade imo. There’s a reason why Ferrari used a monoball bushing. Only reason why it’s not making sound is because it’s new. Put in a new OE bushing and it won’t make any sound either.


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When I was shopping for a Scud I recall that some said the noise was from something in dash ..be interested to see your findings and if I passed up some good cars because o itf

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There’s that too. Crackling noise coming from the dash. You usually hear it reversing out of a steep driveway. Like a dash noise from contortion.

 

Does anyone have a "quiet" scud ? No clicks or crackling

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Did you get to the cause of this ?

 

I've pointed this out on other threads in the past: the Superformance lower shock bushings are a downgrade. They seem to be based on the 360 part. The F430 suspension upgrades included the ball joints in place of a simple rubber bush.

 

The lower shock bushing part # 157630 is used on nearly every Ferrari including the 360. Superformance shock bushing is their own design. If it’s not a monoball bushing, it’s a downgrade imo.



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My scud has rattles, they change depending on the road and weather; my dealer thought there was a suspension knock that I could tell was actually a window that needed tightening. I honestly think the car doesn't suit people who are sensitive to squeaks and knocks, the thing is as close to a race car that I've ever driven (particularly with the insane gearbox). Jayemm is an exacting reviewer - though I think he's excellent - and I feel like the nature of the car doesn't really suit him - he likes the rawness in theory, but not in reality.

Personally I wouldn't swap my scud for anything except a manual CS.

 

Most everything they sell is a step down imo. You want to stick with OE or Hill Engineering upgrades. Superformance is selling budget solutions.

 

Since this subject is brought up, I'm beginning to question Eurospares. If anyone has noticed when searching, some of there listings say Eurospares approved part. So apparently their making their own to? How is it that I bought a guide pin for the capote top and it doesn't fit, but it came in a Ferrari plastic bag. Ill most likely continue to buy certain parts from them, just makes me wander tho