365 P "Tre Posti" #8971 at Gooding

If I'm not mistaken, was 8815 silver with a black stripe and later turned to black. 8971 (this car) was white. I could be wrong though.


Onno

 

In the Vintage Ferrari Market Section of ferrarichat is already a detailed thread about this car.
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Marcel Massini

 

On Sunday September 17, 1967 8971 was demonstrated at the Bridgehampon Circuit. © unknown.
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It would be great to see it next to a 246.

 

Recently next to my PF coupe. Stunning in person!
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The Rossellini car passed me on the road in Monterey during Car Week a couple of years ago - I too was stunned to see it. Definite beauty!

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ER

 

Much larger, larger than a 250LM...

The sun roof is a nice touch...

 

The size and details are very different between it and the Dino 246 but the overall shape is so similar that being able to compare them in person would be a treat.

 

I agree!

This is the car that has the honking rear spoiler added, or its sister car??

 

The sister car always had that rear spoiler.

 

Its not a unique concept, when I was a budding car designer at the age of 13 (1982)! I drew a similar sketch to Gordon Murrays, for a school project I was doing at the time which was making a road legal Le Mans type car, and it had exactly the same seating arrangement as the F1 and I had never seen or read about Gordon Murrays concept or this Ferrari.

I nearly fell over many years later when I saw Murrays sketch as it was identical to mine in the same schoolboy drawn fashion. Maybe I should have stuck with it instead of my current profession

 

8815, the earlier sister of 8971, almost exactly forty years ago in Monterey (8 August 1974 in Laguna Seca, to be precise). Love those mirrors........
This car was fully factory certified June 2013 and lives since many years in a major Asian collection.

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I saw 8815 many years ago when I was a kid. John Mecom owned the New Orleans Saints and had a large apartment on Lee Circle with a garage under it. He kept cars in New Orleans and would send them for repair at International Motor Cars in Jackson, Ms. At the dealership you would see the usual cars in for repair but walking into the back warehouse, you never knew what you would come across. I remember clearly seeing the car and thinking "it looks like a dino or more like the speciale show car". Larger and wider than a Dino with the unusual glass roof but mainly the very unique 3 seat configuration with the driver in the middle and forward. My older brother pushed me out of the way and sat in the driver seat so I had to sit shotgun. When I asked my Dad why the 3 seats he gave us the often repeated line about "a brunette on one side and a redhead on the other". I think it had been repainted Mecom Blue at that time.

Parked just behind it and to the left though was a car that truly stopped me in my tracks....I could not get the door open. It came loose but not out and then following the path of least resistance the door went up in the air. I could not believe how incredible the Countach was. It was a Mecom car as well. He had a wing put on the back of it and turns out it was made of wood and had termite damage!

Also, seems like I remember one of the 365P cars showing as sold in Autoweek around 2002 for like 1.5-2.5 million.

 

Neither 8815 nor 8971 sold around 2002.
Mecom owned 8815 from 26 January 1976 until January 1988.

Marcel Massini

 

yeah, I don't still have the Autoweek. Looks like the 365P was in an open road segment in the 8/12/2002 copy and they may have estimated it's worth.

 

Bingo! Marcel. I spoke with Luigi last week and those sounded like the numbers.

 

25-35m USD? This is just insane. For the Rossellini car, yes, but 3 Posti? It is not an beauti and perhaps a quite unique car but many early 50's are and non of them that expensive.

My estimation is still 6 m euro, and in two weeks we will know how wrong I am.

Ciao
Oscar

 

I agree Oscar. I also find it ridiculous the estimate.
But quite frankly €6m is too low for a such a 'rare' car.
It has an interesting history too. As you say- we will soon know more.
Best Edmond
ps: I read somewhere that you would be a seller in this market. That makes two of us. Ofcourse only theoretically speaking If was a 'trader', 'speculator' or 'dealer' I would be a seller rather than buyer....

 

Keep in mind that on the 10th May 2014 Ferrari 275 GTB/C #09067 was sold by RM in Monaco, hammer price was Euro € 5'100'000 (buyer's premium not included yet!).

Marcel Massini

 

8815 in 1988

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Looks nice with the spoiler.
IMO

 

This photo appears a bit more detailed.
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Time to get out of the hot Texas sun.

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Calling attention to the Gooding catalog description for #8971 they write:

"Constructed in 1966, the 365 P Berlinetta Speciale was the first mid-engine, 12-cylinder Ferrari designed specifically for use as a road car."

Can someone explain why #6025, the Ferrari 250 LM Pininfarina Stradale Speciale, isn't more deserving of this description since it also has a mid-engined V12, was designed specifically as a road car and pre-dates the Tre Posti by one year?

>8^)
ER
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