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365 BB Chassis 17553 Nut and Bolt Restoration

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  1. Newman

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    The usual ferrari putty to fill gaps!

    Floor is riveted in thoroughly then the texture and fiberglass strips to seal it to the perimeter. The injected cars had seam sealer, a more modern approach.

    The 365 floor is different than the 512 in that the 365 floor is flat all the way to the rear firewall which also means a longer console. The shifter shaft hole is also different and then the hole for the harness differs.
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    I think you are enjoying this teardown???:)
     
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    Floor is out and aside from a few items in the doors and the windshield its ready for the structure to be sand blasted.

    Im pulling the windshield which is my least favourite job on a boxer with a good OEM windshield. The antenna is the issue. A 308 windshield I would pull 10 to 1 boxer windshield. I often leave them in during a repaint but there's a detail with the rear view mirror I need to address which requires glass removal. Ill point it out once the glass is out. Unbroken if I get my way! Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
     
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    This is a great example of the parts book being wrong.

    The 76 BB512 book shows non-retractible seat belts like this 74 365 originally had. The two square cutouts in the 512 rear firewall are to clear the stamped steel plates that the belt reels mount to for retractable belts.
     
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    I don't know what to make of this mirror mount and its very well done. Countersunk slot screws, metric hardware, a slot for the mount to fit into and the head liner has a clearance notch for it....the headliner being another item with some details that don't jive with other 365s which Ill bring up later.

    Of course the parts book I have dated 76 365 doesn't show this bracket. I don't want to chuck it and never say never with a ferrari so I need to investigate further.

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    Front lower (forward piece) is bent forward and theres what I consider to be a chain indent on it. The rear lower (rearward piece) is also bent outwards.

    The lower suspension is inverted and you can see the gentle bend to it. Last pic is the same arm at the left with the blown out bushing.

    What I noticed initially is the upper and lower balljoint caster shims were out of the ordinary in their arrangement. Seeing the bent arm it all makes sense.

    The cause would be someone pulled the car down by the arms as well as too tight on a flatbed.



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    Chassis done and a few other hard to get areas.

    The main goal with the fiberglass was to essentially clean it and prepare it for paint to stick which will then be a nice base for the glue for things like foam, trunk felt or carpet. Some of the black coat just came off making the glass transparent. Areas like the 4 inners I didn't want to strip and effect the original sloppy finish and pin holes so we just lightly dusted it to prep the surface.


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    Looking good ... it's so gratifying to see the old junk disappear, only to be replaced with fresh, pristine finishes :)
     
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    365 owners I need some quick measurements please.

    Early cars had the coolant tank mounted on the left side of the engine bay which was later moved to the middle of the engine. The side mounted tank was removed on this car and they cut the original brackets off the left upper shock mount brace. I can see where they were and know what they look like but dimensions I dont have.

    If anyone could post some pics and measurements that would be greatly appreciated!
     
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    Sill looking for one piece bucket seats for this car, a long shot I know. One frame is all I need and I can make another.
     
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    Thank you for the pics! The frames are very different than I thought as compared with a daytona seat. Entirely different than the folding boxer seats.

    Yes the measurements help a lot.
     
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    Etch primer on which will be followed by another primer then yellow paint on the chassis. It'll get covered with black of course.

    When Ferrari painted the cars everything went body colour first. The difference is they were using single stage paint and when they applied the body colour they had a window of a few days to apply the black without having to sand it. It was easy and durable.

    I want to paint the car like Ferrari did where the frame is sealed with yellow paint but we need to take a different approach. We can't do it exactly how ferrari did because the body is being painted base-clear rather than lacquer or enamel. So we're going to use single stage yellow on the frame after the second primer coat because its how ferrari did it. The black will go over the yellow within that window we have to avoid sanding prior to black. We bag the ends and the body will then be done base clear yellow with boxer trim and the finished product will be exceptional. Done out of order but necessary.

    Here's an injected boxer showing how thorough they were sealing the chassis with real paint.

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    Some 365 to 512 differences showing where they widened the rear bodywork and altered the rear cabin area. Fuel tanks differ as well.

    You can see in the last pic the width of the rear structure.

    The cabin remained the same width although the shape changed.

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