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  1. Aeron Fout

    Aeron Fout Karting

    Nov 21, 2019
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    Here are a couple questions I have regarding proper downshifting on a 360 F1. If it matters at all, my clutch has about 6k miles since new.

    Question 1: When downshifting from 2nd to 1st in my 360 F1 I notice a much harder gear change than when I downshift from any other gear. Is this normal?

    Question 2: Also I have heard that you can stay on the gas while downshifting during normal driving. Is this true, or do I need to be lifting off the gas during downshifts?

    Thanks, Aeron



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  2. 24000rpm

    24000rpm F1 Rookie

    1. its normal because the 1-2 is a tall gear. I.e. ratio change is bigger than other gear changes, such as 4-5 or 5-4.
    2. yes, it is true. the computer will cut fuel for you.

     
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  3. Aeron Fout

    Aeron Fout Karting

    Nov 21, 2019
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    Thank you for the reply!


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  4. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Note that you only get rev matching if you are in Sport. In Normal, no rev matching on upshifts or downshifts.
     
  5. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    It should. If not there is an issue.
     
  6. LorenzoR

    LorenzoR F1 Rookie
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    One thing i never did was to down shift into first (manual shift here). Actually when slowing id just go to neutral from third then come to complete stop then into first. I think its better for the car overall
     
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  7. Rjoselaw

    Rjoselaw Karting

    Mar 10, 2019
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    Can you further explain "rev matching" and how its advantages and disadvantages for our cars? Sorry, if this is a simple concept
     
  8. KC360 FL

    KC360 FL Formula 3

    Jun 20, 2017
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    IMO downshifting into first is not a good idea for any car. First gear is a very low gear for pulling away. I never shift into first in my 360 unless I'm at a very slow roll. I have a 2003 F1 360

    To add... I had a very weird experience recently when I downshifted to first and it appeared that the computer decided to do the same for me at the same time. The car stuttered, ran what seemed like on one bank and when I pulled away from the traffic light I got a CEL. I drove it for a bit and than run it up on the RPMs and it seemed fine but then began running a little rough again. I went home, shut the battery off via the knob in the frunk waited about 10 minutes and then turned it back to power. I started the car and the CEL was gone. I let it idle for about 5 minutes and then took it for a spirited drive with no issues or a return of the CEL. Since then all is well and the car runs as normal. No CEL. Go figure :confused:
     
  9. KC360 FL

    KC360 FL Formula 3

    Jun 20, 2017
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    Simple answer: As you shift down to a lower gear in a car without "rev matching" the engine will rev at a higher RPM with the lower gear selected-- no doubt you have noticed how the engine RPMs jump up considerably on a downshift in most cars if you don't add a little throttle for a smoother shift. The computer system (ECU Engine Control Unit and the TCU Transmission control unit in F1 cars) with automatically raise the the engine revs to better match the selected lower gear.

    Same principle with upshifts.
     
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  10. AandSC

    AandSC Formula Junior
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    Dec 12, 2016
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    Thanks to those that provided feedback.

    I’ve been letting the computer shift into first since I didn’t like the 2nd-1st manual shift feel. Has worked better. I kinda like the shift to neutral idea though. I’ll give that a try.
     

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