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  1. Genyosai

    Genyosai Formula Junior

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    I found this thread when my top wouldn't go down today. Checked the fluid and it's below the minimum line. I read the write up by Chaa; sounds easy. However I'm confused a bit because of other procedures I've read. Chaa doesn't mention loosening the bleeder screw in his write up. Is this unnecessary using his procedure?

    Thanks,

    Nick
     
  2. HK355

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    May 21, 2010
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    Please excuse my ignorance but where is the bleed screw? Does anyone have a photo?

    Thanks - Brad
     
  3. FloridaF355

    FloridaF355 Rookie

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  4. gobuffs2002

    gobuffs2002 Karting

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    Has anyone taken the roof canvas off to replace it? I'd love to know the proper way.
    Thanks in advance
     
  5. k17har

    k17har Karting

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    #55 k17har, Aug 11, 2011
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    you should also check for loose screws around the ram/and metal frame ( not sure what they called) when top half way down. you gotta remember that these cars get a lot of bumpy ride and things do get loose, especialy the screws (allen key) that hold the frame together. the other day when i was driving, this small screw fell of from the frame. and also maintain those door and roof rubber seal for leak proof, not sure what product to use, but i read about it somewhere.
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  6. heung

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    Aug 16, 2009
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    2 weeks ago I posted on the question on how to top up the oil soft top and I'm very thankful for gotten a repy on how to do so. I'm still having problem with my soft top retriving on the 355. Everything work perfectly except 1 very important step in the sequence.

    I release the top manually. Parking brake on, push up until I hear the beep. Both Window dropped about 2 ins. Hold the switch, both Seats move forward. The next step is the top will fold back before coming down. This step is missing. It will not fold back, and if swich is continue to be pressed, the top will lower and if I don't fold the back rest of the seat back, the top will hit the seat. The top will lower all the way and stop as the roof is still not folder. It will not go further. I can now close it back and the top will move back up and the final stage, I can hear the top 2 cylinder pushed the top all the way forward and rest on the top of the windscreen. after locking the level, the switch will put the seats back to position. Why is it not folding? Is 1 of the Mirco Switch not atuvated or contacted?
     
  7. Pepsi10

    Pepsi10 Formula Junior

    Nov 24, 2008
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    Hi William, I had this same problem. I am not near my car right now, and I have a flight to catch, so I am in a bit of a rush but maybe read this thread if you haven't:
    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=178284&highlight=carpet

    There is a bar that runs across the roof. On my car, I need to press this bar upward, toward the sky, a small amount, maybe half an inch.

    I think this is what I do:
    I manually release the latches
    I then gently press up (toward the sky) on this bar that is above my head while keeping the switch pulled
    By pressing GENTLY upward on this bar, the top will fold back properly and clear the seats.
    If I don't gently press on this bar, the top will NOT fold back properly and it will make contact with the seats

    From reading the other thread: In some cars, this bar, that I need to press, is slightly bent. Perhaps from somebody sitting on the top when it is in the folded down position. By pressing on it, you are pushing in back in the position is should be in.

    I am accustomed to doing this now, so it is just part of the procedure.
    Unlatch
    Move top backward until you hear the beep
    Press on bar gently while pushing switch to fold down top

    Try it and report back. Thanks and good luck.
     
  8. eyboro

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    My top works by remote control, watch here
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOtLqLrJAIY[/ame]
     
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  9. gobuffs2002

    gobuffs2002 Karting

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    Ok where do you get the remote control?
     
  10. f355spider

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    I did not understand the point of this, until I watched the video completely. So this modification is helpful for tall people. Got it...I am only 5'8"...lol. ;)
     
  11. heung

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    Aug 16, 2009
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    Hi Mike,

    Thanks for the invaluable advice. I tried the opening on the top today, and following your advice to push up on the bar. Wha lllla. The top folds back and everything is in all working order. Try it a few times and each time the bar needed to be push up and it will work with no problem. Once again thank you very much. Has anybody try repairing this problem??
     
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  12. st4rk

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    It's that time of the year, tagging in case my stupid top acts up on me on the first top-down drive of the season.
     
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  13. Aussie Technician

    Feb 4, 2021
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    Hi there,

    Does anyone perhaps have the Hydraulic line allocations diagram ? The 355 I'm working on now had someone else's hands in it and it looks like the top two cylinders are not working, I also noticed that it sounds like the pump is under strain when trying to open and close the roof.

    Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.

    Cheers Mates
     
  14. Qavion

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  16. Aussie Technician

    Feb 4, 2021
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    Johan Viljoen
    I managed to trace a wiring diagram down and checked the system accordingly, seats and windows does not respond on switch, fluid level is low and I'm having a tough time bleeding it, thus the reason I'm thinking someone might have swapped a hose around or something equivalent

    The roof canvas looks fair and looked after, still tight as it should be......I think.....lol.
     
  17. Qavion

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    I meant there is a common problem where the second crossbar (from the window) goes down instead of up and the roof doesn't fold properly.

    The latest version of my custom diagram is here:

    https://www.dropbox.com/t/Y14rZMPyEtylSP26

    I update it every few months or so..

    The seats and windows stop responding when the roof is unlatched and lifted slightly from the top of the windshield. I believe the seats stop responding after their auto cycle until the roof is fully down. Are you getting the standard single beep when you pull the roof back to initiate roof operation?
     
  18. Aussie Technician

    Feb 4, 2021
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    Your diagrams helped a stack, thanks..........
    The second crossbar definitely causes some of the problems, its down instead of up......
    I'm getting a continuous beeping when trying to initiate the roof operation, without any action or response, I must admit that I've taken on this job without the needed "tools" wiring diagrams and general operating procedures ........
     
  19. Aircon

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    Good luck.
     
  20. Aussie Technician

    Feb 4, 2021
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    Hey Qavion,

    You are a star mate, I got the roof fixed and ready to go...... there was a few issues...
    1) Fluid level below min, had to bleed it a few times
    2) Broken micro-switch wiring on left rear pillar
    3) Some roof upholstery to retract the top middle crossbar

    All the above faults just shows neglect of the vehicle, it's a shame......awesome car
    Thanks again
    I'll return the favor when I'm in the position to....

    Cheers mate
     
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  21. Aircon

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  22. Qavion

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    Faster than a speeding bullet...

    Great work. Glad we could help.
     
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  23. Raistlin

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    Sep 23, 2021
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    Thanks Chaa. Just got a F355 and noted the soft top was struggling to close. Checked the hydraulic fluid level and well below minimum. Went through the service records and no mention of topping it up. Some of the bolts were difficult to loosen but I managed to top it up and working more smoothly now. Really appreciate this forum!
     
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