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355 355 Carbon Sport Seats Picture/Discussion Thread (Worldwide)

Discussion in '348/355' started by ShineKen, Mar 30, 2023.

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  1. ShineKen

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    Due to recent debate regarding how many 355's came equipped with carbon sports seats, I figured it was best to start a fun thread and speculate. Tons of different color variations over the years will make for an interesting picture thread as well :).

    There are 7448 Berlinettas and GTS' produced world wide. Spiders were not equipped with these seats, although I've managed to come across one instance where someone made it work. My estimate is 250 worldwide. That's roughly 3.3% (1 in 30 GTB/S'). I'd say the number is less (1%) for U.S spec cars. These are most prevalent in UK, Euro, and Japanese markets. Still rare, however, just not unicorn rare.

    I've speculated in other threads there were 3 total sizes made through 355 production years. 95-97 with only one standard size (Normal) and 98-99 with 2 size options (Large or Narrow). There is a strong possibility 95-97 "Normal" sized seats are equivalent to 98-99's "Large" sized seat. I'm sure in time, we'll get to the bottom of it :). Personally, I have sat in a 98-99 Narrow seat and a 98-99 Large seat. I have yet to sit in a 95-97 Normal carbon seat.

    Carbon weave pattern for 95-97 cars is Twill Weave carbon-kevlar (black and yellow fabrics). There are carbon-kevlar 98 seats, but at some point, a transition was made to Plain Weave carbon fiber (black fabric) in 98 cars. 99 cars will be in in plain weave, which is the standard carbon in Ferraris today.


    Original window stickers show these to be roughly a $3500 option at the time. Good luck finding them for that price. They were produced by TIR in the 90's, which seems to be a composite shop catering to F1 as well. They are no longer around. Haven't been since the early 2000's. End of an era.


    My observations indicate most are black in color. Any color outside of black I would argue is rare ... enough. Seats are either full Connolly Autolux leather or accented with suede. Some have shoulder patches, some do not. I've come across a very early date one (dates are on the bottom) with no headrest Cavalino, which seems to match early marketing brochures.





    Feel free to post pics or any relevant info :).
     
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  3. ShineKen

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    The last car, I think I've seen pics of it. If it's carbon, it was added later for sure. I recall seeing pics of it on FB and thinking the same thing ;).
     
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    The production date (TIR tag) on the bottom of the seat would confirm it.
     
  5. ShineKen

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    One more thing. Last time I weighed them, they were roughly 30 lbs each including the sliding rail, but I can double-check.
     
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  8. Closingtime

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    Thanks for creating this post, Ken! When I discovered this rare option existed in 2019, I decided if I ever purchased an F355, it would have to contain the rare and unobtanium carbon fiber/kevlar racing seats. I'm the proud owner of a U.S. delivered 1 of 1 Spec (as per my research) F355 GTS in Nero Carbonio Metallic over red/black carbon kevlar seats (1996). Being able to remove the targa top and show off the seats, makes my GTS even more special.

    I have been compiling a database of cars equipped with the racing seats and have 85 total F355s listed. If you own or know of cars with these seats, please send me a message with the information or post in this thread. I'll continue to update my personal database accordingly. Here are the current stats:

    Total Cars with the CF/CK Racing Seats - 85

    Total Berlinettas - 48

    Total GTS - 36

    Total LHD - 58

    Total RHD - 27

    I haven't been able to confirm the transmissions for some of the '97-99 cars in the database, so I'll have to update later. I compiled this list by going through all public auction data, FChat threads and F/S posts, cars for sale online throughout the world, and the F355 Registry. Here is the interior of mine:

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  9. ShineKen

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    Did you collect photos of them as well?
     
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    I just purchased a 1995 GTB, US spec with factory spec’d carbon seats in size Large. Will add some photos when I have the car back from service.
     
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  11. ShineKen

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    Yes, your build sheet is the reason I questioned. Perhaps they were just all large sizes between 95-97. I could be wrong.
     
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    I have some photos and half of the VINs. My database breaks out the year, model, exterior color, seat color(s), location, history if any, LHD/RHD, Euro vs NA, manual vs F1 or swapped (there are 4 swapped cars in the database), mileage if applicable, and mods.
     
  14. Closingtime

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    I don't think I have your car in my racing seat database. I have one giallo/black Berlinetta that was sold out of Michigan in 2014, but it doesn't sound like that is yours. If you wouldn't mind sending me the last 6 digits of your VIN (or the full VIN), I will add it to the database. I don't intend to make the VINs public, but it would be great to track and show how rare these cars truly are. Thanks!
     
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    Mine was standard vanilla from the factory. Now with 550 maranello seats which are similar to the later 355 seats but different inset pattern.

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  17. Closingtime

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    Ribbed, for your pleasure ;)
     
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    Mines, installed post Factory
     

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    I have two F355's with the seats right now, my personal car (Japan spec, Blue Le Mans on Tan) and one that I'm prepping for sale (S.A. delivered, Nero Daytona on Nero interior with red contrast stitch, FHP car), and sold a US spec F1 GTS (Rosso on Nero) with them late last year.

    I have a bunch of vins of US cars that I monitor if they were to come up for sale...but stopped adding to that list because I find RoW cars to be optioned better most times.
     
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    We need pics Nin.
     
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