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330 GTO question

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  1. rosso_fanatic

    rosso_fanatic Formula Junior

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    How does the value of a 330 GTO compare to a 250 GTO?
     
  2. elipinski

    elipinski Formula 3

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    very strange. i saw an ad, where a 330 gto was offered for 175.000 us$; GTO 250 2 -3 Millions; really strange; the 330 has the bigger v12 4 ltr engine, and looks just like the 250. i once had the opportunity, to drive one from adentist in germany, who bought the car in the 70 ties as a student for around 3000 us$.
     
  3. El Wayne

    El Wayne F1 World Champ
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    By "330 GTO," I assume you are referring to the 4-liter (400 Superamerica) cars that are bodied similarly to 250 GTOs -3673 SA, 3765 SA(LM) and 4561 SA? If so, I can only say that this would depend heavily on which car you were talking about (3673 might not have originally carried GTO-style coachwork, 4651 was primarily a road car, etc.). Even then, it all comes down to what one is willing to pay and, in the past, some of these cars have changed hands for large amounts of money - 250 GTO type of money.

    If, on the other hand, you're referring to rebodied 330 GT 2+2s that are commonly advertised as "330 GTOs," well, that's an entirely different matter.
     
  4. 2NA

    2NA F1 World Champ
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    My understanding was that 330 GTO's are rebodies (replicas). I saw one at Concorso Italiano a few years ago. It was very nice and looked original but apparently left the factory with one of those "only a mother could love" GT 2+2 bodies. Not strictly original but a huge improvement.
     
  5. yale

    yale Formula Junior

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    Who you calling "a mother." Yale
     
  6. ArtS

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    Apparently you and me Yale ;)

    Regards,

    Art S.
     
  7. 2NA

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    "only a mother could love"

    Only meant as a literary device, not a personal attack.

    More than likely the "donor car" was in pretty poor shape prior to the rebody.
     
  8. rem3sam

    rem3sam Karting

    Nov 9, 2006
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    i could be wrong, but i think that what he may be referring to would be a 330 LMB, which i think was the correct name for a 250 gto with the 4 liter v12. i have no idea what the value of one of those would be though....
     
  9. model builder

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    A 330LMB is an entirely different car than a 330GTO. GTO's with the 4 litre 12 are 330 GTO's. 330LMB's had a 2500mm chassis and GTO's had a 2400mm chassis. The bodies are very different. The rear end looked like a Lusso. Some GTO's were rebodied with a 330LMB style body such as the type David Piper ran at LM and were sometimes referred to as 250LMB's but the 330LMB is not the designation for the 330GTO.
     
  10. rosso_fanatic

    rosso_fanatic Formula Junior

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    Thanks for giving everyone that info. I did some further reading on the 330 GTO and found out the 3 cars that had 4 litre V12s with GTO bodies were never actually given names by Ferrari so that might be why most of the people didnt know exactly what I was talking about when I called it a 330 GTO.

    In my further research I also discovered that 330 GTO #4561SA was sold for $17,000,000 in 1990 which is the highest known price ever paid for a Ferrari. I think this answers my qeustion. The source of this information is an article written by Michael Sheehan. It can be seen at http://www.ferraris-online.com/Articles/SCM_0209.html. Thanks for all the help. Compared to values paid for 250 GTOs in the late 80s/early 90's craze and the values paid for those same 250 GTOs in the late 90's/early 00's I would estimate 4561 to be worth around 10 - 13 million in todays market. Amazing!
     
  11. Bryan

    Bryan Formula 3

    Essentially all of the following is from Pourret "Ferrari 250 GTO".

    All 3 liter cars known as 250 GTO had S/Ns xxxx GT on 2400 mm wheelbase.

    The following cars, as Wayne mentioned, were GTO-similar bodies on the 2500 mm SuperAmerica wheelbase. These are often called (see Pourret) 330 GTOs, as are replicas built on 330 GT 2+2 chassis. The factory has never built a replica.

    3673 SA
    4561 SA
    4381 SA

    3765 LM is an oddball, but most believe that it did race at Le Mans in 1962. The original 4L engine was switched out for a 3L engine to be raced as 250 GTO. Jim Jaeger bought the car in 1985 and tracked down a 4L engine, but not the original engine.

    Four more cars had 4L engines and Le Mans bodies; hence, 330 LMB. All are on SA chassis. The rear half is similar to the Lusso. They are all slightly different in the details.


    4381 SA
    4453 SA
    4619 SA
    4725 SA
     
  12. rosso_fanatic

    rosso_fanatic Formula Junior

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    Thanks for the info. I love your 365! One of the most underrated Ferraris of all time IMO.
     
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  14. rem3sam

    rem3sam Karting

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    ok, thanks for setting me straight. i really don't know much about these, it was just by chance that i was reading a ferrari book and it said what i said.
     
  15. Bryan

    Bryan Formula 3

    That's what is entertaining and frustrating at the same time about older Ferraris. The history on many of the early cars is not robust (Ferraris were not always studied to death) and even acknowledged experts won't agree on every detail on every S/N.

    That said, Pourret's book is about as good as you can get on 250 GTOs.

    But even better is to start collecting a whole library. Unfortunately, the good books on the older cars are getting more scarce and there are not many new books coming out as a large fraction of the Ferrari interest is aimed at the modern cars.
     

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