308 GTB original carpets | FerrariChat

308 GTB original carpets

Discussion in '308/328' started by Andrew McCrae, Nov 26, 2018.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

  1. Andrew McCrae

    Andrew McCrae Formula Junior

    Jun 5, 2016
    250
    Ireland
    I have now moved on to carpet on my GTB April 1980. Does anybody know what the original carpets were like please? Mine have been changed and clips with tiny rivets (no backing load spreader) used that the rivets have pulled out more than once leaving a swiss cheese floor, some filled with body-filler. According to receipts this was done "professionally". Specific questions are
    How was carpet attached to floor
    Was there a felt underlay
     
  2. Crowndog

    Crowndog F1 Veteran

    Jul 16, 2011
    7,042
    Fairfield,Pa
    Full Name:
    Robert
    I started a thread on this. To sum up what I’ve learned. The original manufacturer is long gone. Our carpet is a synthetic. Most replacement sets sold have too thin a pile unless you go with maybe Wilton wool. At least one supplier here actually gets carpet from Italy. I have also from the same supplier and am awaiting the shipment as I type this. Check out Tappazzeria Luppi. Price is right, shipping a little expensive. He has original templates for our cars. His carpet is a semi synthetic with a thick pile like our OEM carpet. Depending on color you will get a match or something very close.
    Good luck.
     
    Andrew McCrae and miketuason like this.
  3. schu

    schu Rookie

    Aug 25, 2009
    21
    Leawood, KS
    Full Name:
    Mike Fickel
    #3 schu, Nov 27, 2018
    Last edited: Nov 27, 2018
    I recently replaced the original tan carpet in my 79 308GTB. The best match color and pile height was a Wilton wool. If your carpets are tan, let me know and I will look up the Wilton number.
    Mike
     
  4. Andrew McCrae

    Andrew McCrae Formula Junior

    Jun 5, 2016
    250
    Ireland
    Thank you Mike and Scrounger, My carpets are black but what I am trying to find out is how the carpets were originally fixed and also mine has a felt underlay bonded to the carpet which I suspect is very unoriginal.
     
  5. Martin308GTB

    Martin308GTB F1 Rookie

    Jan 22, 2003
    4,252
    Black Forest Germany
    Full Name:
    Martin N.
    #5 Martin308GTB, Nov 28, 2018
    Last edited: Nov 28, 2018
    Andrew,
    my carpets are fixed with Velcro strips, glued to the floor and back of the carpets. I think, that's original.
    Regarding your 'professional repair' of the holes in the floor. I had a few stripped holes for some of those too little fasteners (center console). I repaired them with a mix of yellow glass wool (simple house rooftop insulation stuff) and poly-resin. Drilling them again after material has cured. Hardly noticeable, that there was a repair. Body filler gives no strength.
    (glass/resin mix is a nasty one. Use rubber gloves).
    Edit: no felt underneath the carpets.

    Best from Germany
    Martin
     
  6. Andrew McCrae

    Andrew McCrae Formula Junior

    Jun 5, 2016
    250
    Ireland
    Hi Martin. I hear felt is not original which fits with the parts diagrams. Sorry but I can not see Ferrari using Velcro! Is there a chance a po used Velcro on yours.
    It was the professionals who made the holes in the floor by using inappropriate fixings. I have scraped out the body filler and made up a paste of glass fibres and resin to fill the holes, I am going to hand sand this back to flat next. I may have to buy the two main pieces of carpet even though the existing is not worn.
     
  7. Martin308GTB

    Martin308GTB F1 Rookie

    Jan 22, 2003
    4,252
    Black Forest Germany
    Full Name:
    Martin N.
    Of course. I didn't inquire about originality, since this solution works perfectly.
    There are other non original solutions out there, like claw fasteners clamped between seat rails and brackets.
    Seems, that the original state was a permanent source of trouble.

    Best from Germany
    Martin
     
  8. Hinecker

    Hinecker Formula Junior

    Mar 14, 2011
    379
    Afternoon Andrew,
    My 328 GTS floor mats(center piece) are held in place with Velcro, just as Martin says. I can't assure this is factory fit, but by the looks, I would say it is.
    The rest of the floor mats are bonded to the interior with contact adhesive.

    Rgrds,
    John.
     
    Andrew McCrae and Crowndog like this.
  9. Crowndog

    Crowndog F1 Veteran

    Jul 16, 2011
    7,042
    Fairfield,Pa
    Full Name:
    Robert
    Andrew McCrae likes this.
  10. yelcab

    yelcab F1 World Champ
    Consultant

    Nov 29, 2001
    13,379
    San Carlos, CA
    Full Name:
    Mitchell Le
    velcro for my 328
     
    Andrew McCrae likes this.
  11. Hinecker

    Hinecker Formula Junior

    Mar 14, 2011
    379
    No felt underneath my mats either.

    John.
     
  12. Hinecker

    Hinecker Formula Junior

    Mar 14, 2011
    379
    Velcro strips are glued directly to the fiberglass floor. Mats have a plastic protective layer underneath, with strips of "self adhesive" Velcro, matching the ones on the floor.

    Rgrds,
    John.
     
    johnk... and Crowndog like this.
  13. Crowndog

    Crowndog F1 Veteran

    Jul 16, 2011
    7,042
    Fairfield,Pa
    Full Name:
    Robert
    The Velcro only runs along the edge that goes a little under the seat.
     
    Andrew McCrae likes this.
  14. Hinecker

    Hinecker Formula Junior

    Mar 14, 2011
    379
    Afternoon Crowndog,
    Mine are sorted out at different locations on the two central mats. Both mats have them in the same locations, if way not be factory fitted, yet it does look very well done.
    Don't know for sure.

    Rgrds,
    John.
     
    Crowndog likes this.
  15. Martin308GTB

    Martin308GTB F1 Rookie

    Jan 22, 2003
    4,252
    Black Forest Germany
    Full Name:
    Martin N.
    Hi Robert,
    Mine too on the driver's side, but do you have none on the passenger side mat's front edge? I have one Velcro strip where's the approx. 45° slope.

    Besg Regards
    Martin
     
    Crowndog likes this.
  16. Crowndog

    Crowndog F1 Veteran

    Jul 16, 2011
    7,042
    Fairfield,Pa
    Full Name:
    Robert
    Hello Martin,
    I believe mine to be factory and yes Velcro is on both driver and passenger at same place. Along the edge just under the seat. Not sure about the 45 degree slope but certainly possible.
    Reread your post and yes also in the front and on 45 degree slope. I stand corrected, thanks Martin!
     
    Andrew McCrae likes this.
  17. Crowndog

    Crowndog F1 Veteran

    Jul 16, 2011
    7,042
    Fairfield,Pa
    Full Name:
    Robert
    I also have the clips to add to my new carpet set when it gets here. The clip attaches under the seat mounting bracket at the front bolts. Then just slid mat into its jaws. Teeth are very tight and sharp.
     
  18. Crowndog

    Crowndog F1 Veteran

    Jul 16, 2011
    7,042
    Fairfield,Pa
    Full Name:
    Robert
    Correct!!
     
  19. Crowndog

    Crowndog F1 Veteran

    Jul 16, 2011
    7,042
    Fairfield,Pa
    Full Name:
    Robert
  20. Andrew McCrae

    Andrew McCrae Formula Junior

    Jun 5, 2016
    250
    Ireland
    Great Guys. Seems Velcro 'r us is the place to go. That Italian supplier looks interesting. I'd like to hear your thoughts on the carpet when you get it Robert.
    Those ebay mats look plush all right but look at that price Gulp! Nobody seems to do good mats (not carpet) any more at a realistic price. Back in 2006 I got plush mats for my Alfa for €70 from the dealer and this year impossible to get similar.
     
  21. Oengus

    Oengus F1 World Champ
    Rossa Subscribed Silver Subscribed

    Is Luppi the source for factory mats?
     
  22. Crowndog

    Crowndog F1 Veteran

    Jul 16, 2011
    7,042
    Fairfield,Pa
    Full Name:
    Robert
    Yes if color can be matched.


    Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat.com mobile app
     
  23. Hinecker

    Hinecker Formula Junior

    Mar 14, 2011
    379
    Don't was to look like a smart ass, but in my honest opinion, there are some fixes almost anybody can do. For example the mats or the upholstery.
    This is not rocket science, and for heaven's sake, the mats aren't even pre molded. It's just a flat piece of carpet, nicely trimmed and on the drivers side it has a vulcanized footrest added.
    As said before, I'm not trying to be smart, but I would not pay crazy amounts for something that's not original. On the other hand I would do it myself.
    Martin has a lathe, see what I mean? He saves money on many repairs(I suppose). I think that plying around with these cars is most of the fun.
    In my case, as a mechanic, when would I have a chance to play around with a Ferrari, if not my own?

    Don't blacklist me :)

    Best from Spain.
    John.
     
    SamN and Martin308GTB like this.
  24. Martin308GTB

    Martin308GTB F1 Rookie

    Jan 22, 2003
    4,252
    Black Forest Germany
    Full Name:
    Martin N.
    Hi John,

    And a small milling machine :) At least for making my own special tools they are worth their weight in gold. And be it only for making perfectly fitting bearing installation tools on Saturday evening or Sunday morning :)

    Talking about floor mats. Agree 100%. A buddy of mine had them made for his GT4 at a reputable upholstery shop. Only purists and fulltime experts can see, that they are not original. But I even think, they are better manufactured than original ones.
    AND they were very inexpensive.

    Best from Germany
    Martin
     

Share This Page