308 GT4 Wheels and Tires

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  1. Ted Myrus

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    I have a 1975 GT4 that I think is a series 1. The VIN number is 10208, date of manufacture is 2/75. The only place the car says Dino is on the horn button. The owner's manual says Dino 308 GT4 North American Version 1975.

    The car has Good Year Eagle P225/60 VR 14 tires. They are mounted on 7 1/2 X 14 Campagnolo wheels that also say Ferrari. They are 5 spoke with Ferrari center caps. The car will need tires in the near future.

    I am planning to drive it to Monterey for the Historics and thought I'd give it a once over. Don't want to be walking through the Central Vally in August! I have the car a little less than a year and this was the first time I pulled the spare out. To my surprise it was a 205/70 VR 14 XWX Michelin on a Cromodora 6 1/2 X 14 rim that says Dino.

    Does anyone know what wheels belong on this car? The 225/60 tires are a little big. I think a 205/60 would be better. Where can I source 14" tires for this car?

    Your help is appreciated.

    Ted
     
  2. davem

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    I just posted pretty much the same question about a month ago.
    Dave Stacy has the correct wheels for sale which is your spare wheel most likely.
     
  3. Nickt

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    The OEM tyres for the car were either Michelin 205/70 VR14 XWX or Goodyear 205/70 VR14 grand prix 800. the rims were 14" x 6" as standard pressures being up to 130 mph Mich 2.1 f / 2.4r gyear 2.0f / 2.3r
    over 130 mph Mich 2.2f / 2.6r gyear 2.5f / 2.9r

    I hope this helps
    I am running 18" rims and have never looked back!
     
  4. Hans

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    #4 Hans, Jul 16, 2007
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    I'd say 18 inch might be somewhat large for the GT4. However, 16" not only looks good, but is also historically correct!

    The GT4 has also been delivered from the factory with 16 inch rims!!! Tire size then was 205/55/16 front and 225/50/16 rear.

    I've got 16 inch reproduction 308 wheels from www.superformance.co.uk, dressed with Bridgestone Potenza's. The low price on the tires alone paid for a significant part of the wheels. Handling is much better too.

    Hans

    P.S. Interestingly, the factory workshop manuals show significantly different alignment for the 16 inch rims. Presumably because these were a lot more "square" than the balloon 14" tires..
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    #5 Nickt, Jul 16, 2007
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    I'm only going by what my owners manual says..
    as for the 18" rims, no way are they too big!
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  6. dstacy

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    Ted,
    Your car is indeed a series 1 car.

    From the factory you had a Dino emblem recessed into the front. Is it missing now?

    The spare that you have is the wheel that came on your car from the factory. You would have had hubcaps on all 4 wheels with the dino logo in the center.
    Per above, yes I do have a set of these wheels and hubcaps for sale.
     
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    Hans,
    According to who? I think someone is pulling your leg on that one.
     
  8. Nickt

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    Phew, I thought I had a page missing from my owners manual :)
    Regards
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    Me too! :) The 16" rim came out with the 308 QV...about 10 years later.
     
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    Off topic I know, but how do you get a smiley in the reply?
     
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    Type (without the quotations) ":" and then ")" right beside each other :) or if you want a big smile :D type ":" and then a capitol "D" beside each other. No spaces.
     
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    Cheers Jay :) :D
     
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    #13 Hans, Jul 17, 2007
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    According to the 1979 parts manual for the GT4.

    Also according to the official Ferrari service papers (2nd from the bottom). Note different suspension settings for the 16" rims.

    Sorry, NO leg pulling here. 16" rims WERE official on the GT4!!!

    Note in the table of the parts manual: Non vale per USA, J e AUS. So: Euro option only. Note the style of the wheel. Looks familiar?? Late 308 GTB/GTS wheel.
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    Keep forgetting where you live.
    Hans how many times have we told you it doesn't count if it was only offered in Europe? :)
    And definetly doesn't count if it was only offered in europe for only 2 years.
     
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    Hey, Ferrari's are Europea cars! We Europeans can't help that you Americans decided to screw up a perfectly nice car by adding air pumps, big bumpers, silly mufflers, silly lights, removing the sensible (driving) lights, removing the proper wheels, and what have you??

    Bottom line: by adding 16 inch rims in late GTB/GTS style, one is not far off from originality! Maybe wrong year or wrong continent, that's all :D
     
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    You forgot laminated glass and adding a few hundred extra pounds of steel bars and weight to make it a safer car because everyone knows americans are bad drivers and we're gong to wreck them so they had to be made safer.
     
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    Heh Guys
    Neither of you can talk, as you put the steering wheel on the wrong side :D
     
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    LOL

    Funny thing is that the typical American driver when visiting Europe (and especially a latin country like Italy) is scared speechless because of the somewhat more.... let's call it passionate... driving style on this side of the pond.

    Other funny thing is that we, on the other hand, MUST always wear a helmet to ride even a 50 cc motorbike, while you can race a Hyabusa at 55 miles per hour (another lol) bare-headed.

    Legislators at work....
     
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    Hmmmm... Italian car... left hand drive.

    Naaah, not buying it Nick!!!

    Then again, you ARE sitting at the Weber side of the car...

    Hmmmm.....

    Nope, you've got 18 inches. Definately no 18 inch rims in the 70's.

    Nice try though.

    :D
     
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    Not so fast there my euro friend.........

    He could run 4 of the space saver spare tire wheels that you europeans used (we had full size spares as is proper :D) and WALLA! he'd have a factory GT4 with 18" rims.
     
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    Note, the rims were 6 1/2", not 6" 7 1/2" was an option. The 16" wheels for the 308 series appeared in the 1977 parts book for the 308 GTB/GTS and also that year for the 308 GT/4.

    Regards,

    Carl.
     
  24. Nickt

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    History shows that it was you Europeans (not us brits) that ruined the car by moving to the other side of the road, about a quarter of the world drives on the left, and the countries that do are mostly old British colonies. This strange quirk perplexes the rest of the world; but there is a perfectly good reason.

    In the past, almost everybody travelled on the left side of the road because that was the most sensible option for feudal, violent societies. Since most people are right-handed, swordsmen preferred to keep to the left in order to have their right arm nearer to an opponent and their scabbard further from him. Moreover, it reduced the chance of the scabbard (worn on the left) hitting other people.

    In the late 1700s, however, teamsters in France and the United States began hauling farm products in big wagons pulled by several pairs of horses. These wagons had no driver's seat; instead the driver sat on the left rear horse, so he could keep his right arm free to lash the team. Since he was sitting on the left, he naturally wanted everybody to pass on the left so he could look down and make sure he kept clear of the oncoming wagon’s wheels. Therefore he kept to the right side of the road.

    In addition, the French Revolution of 1789 gave a huge impetus to right-hand travel in Europe. The fact is, before the Revolution, the aristocracy travelled on the left of the road, forcing the peasantry over to the right, but after the storming of the Bastille and the subsequent events, aristocrats preferred to keep a low profile and joined the peasants on the right. An official keep-right rule was introduced in Paris in 1794, more or less parallel to Denmark, where driving on the right had been made compulsory in 1793.

    So there :D

    As for my 18 inches, well that a thing of legends. Secretly Enzo longed for 18" but could only go as far as the spare tyre (note the correct spelling). :p
     
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    You are right Carl, I took this from the 1976 owners manual. and I missed of the 1/2 ... oops
     

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