296 PPF Question

I recall my ppf guy advising only STek and Avery offers the extra wide roll which does away with the need for seams by using just the one large (wide) piece to cover the entire front clamshell on the STO. So it it should work with what you’re looking to achieve on the 296 id say.

 

One of the widest and largest front is the Macan , X Pel can cover it however it takes four installers to do it in one piece , I had it done

 

Macan hood has far less overall dimension than an STO clamshell which is as wide, possibly wider than Macan hood but also has no breaks for the separate front guards which allows for all the other films to be used. An STO front clamshell is one piece with no breaks for the front guards. No offense but if it seriously took 4 installers to ppf a Macan hood then id be looking for another installer. As previously stated the STek has the widest roll, and Stek is top notch. I have Stek on @ 5 or 6 cars and has outperformed a few my others with the xpel in terms of impact resistance. Just my experience. Both excellent films but i have so far found the stek better, if that matters.

 

You need an installer with the wider rolls of PPF and ability to do custom work.
I never get the 'precut' PPF on my cars. I hate the edges and seems...

 

The above posted is incorrect from the person posting about the width of STEK

STEK and XPEL both have 60” roll widths or 1524 mm . As far as install is concerned to get a good stretch and get the film well adhered it is better to have more people to evenly stretch it and eliminate all orange peel. This is when you are using plotter cut install. The final finish when the plotter cutting programme has been adjusted to provide some ‘overturn’ is much better.

This is not needed if the installer is going for the hand cut bulk finish . Bulk hand cut finishes will be easier to install as you can have a large over hang and trim it.Bulk install means the overturn can be uneven and lead to issues down the track.

So a good installer that takes the time to customise the pattern cutting programme will get a better install. The installer makes the difference so ask to see their work in person , not photographs .

All tests that are available show impact resistance in extreme conditions (screw driver punching at the panel)of all the top brands is similar.

 

Precut works pretty good, but I had my installer double it up under the front and on the wheel wheels that are painted with no protection (for some reason).

 

The most important thing is the guy who is installing it. A seam can look almost not existing if the guy’s really good and I have seen guys that arent very good Use extra large pieces and they don’t know how to do it and it looks like crap also

 

Yes, by the scoop/intake and diagonal ones on the nose. These are some of the only shots I had where the light made them visible:
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yea i don't have those on mine

 

I's been a while since I had STO PPF'd so was going off memory from what was told at the time my ppl guy explained how he used an extra wide roll so to cover the clamshell without seams.

So for the purpose of earlier corrections, I called my PPF guy who confirms Stek, Xpel, Suntek all now have the extra wide roll 170cm available - Avery soon to have. The 1524 width roll, which is wide, but not wide enough, in certain situations.
He said that originally Stek had it but Xpel and Suntek were quick to follow suit. Stek was used because they had the extra wide in stock at that time.
I was originally referring to the extra wide roll as potentially being a solution for CPI guys 296.
Re the Macan commentary, he felt the 1524 60" roll isn't the best solution as there are 2 triangles (whatever that means) which can be difficult to get coverage on using the 1524 so better to use the extra wide 170cm roll for that job. Maybe KLrunners guy didn't have any 170 or couldn't get it at the time? His comment re 4 guys required to install ppt on a macan hood delivered a slight chuckle - said perhaps they were using the 1524 by stretching it at each corner so it covered the triangles. Said sometimes some guys just use what they have in the shop and do the best with what they have. He said the extra wide is more expensive and not always available.

 

Those cuts have nothing to do with the width of the roll . They are what is referred to as ‘relief cuts ‘ and may be needed when installing to ensure the film adheres flatly. . Relief cuts are especially useful when the film is being installed over areas with sharp valleys or other features that make it difficult for the film to lay down.

if someone can let us know the name of the installer with the extra wide rolls that would be a help , or is it a secret ?

 

https://rennlist.com/forums/macan/1320647-cut-line-in-ppf-on-clamshell.html

Since 2022 a good installer has been able to do one piece on a Macan , inexperienced installers go for relief cuts under the light and toward the back of the clamshell

1700 mm has zero to do with it , seriously it is another fantasy unless you can share the installer

 

There is no secret about the existence of extra wide 1700 rolls. If your installer contacts any of those 3 suppliers they will surely be able to answer any questions and supply where available. The rest of your post is just noise which needs to stop. You've been more than vocal repeatedly telling everyone how you have placed me on ignore amongst casting other insults, so please follow through with the ignore and give us all some peace and quiet from the ongoing hostility and disrespectful behaviour. I won't be responding from here on as you've got a seriously bad attitude problem. I also note prior to me coming along you were sticking it to others for no good reason whatsoever. Get yourself some help - you definitely need it.

 

Unfortunately when someone replies to this Poster , rsguy, it still comes up in my feed so you are exposed to misleading statements always general in nature , never with a link sometimes with photo’s shot tightly that are of ‘his cars’ yet do not match ‘his cars’ somewhat like a teenager using Dad’s computer.

There is nothing hostile or disrespectful about wanting to reply with fact rather than stories , it helps real enthusiasts that own cars , in this forum by far it is Ferrari’s. To that point who was the person that accused anyone that disagreed with them of being ‘salty’ and has had run ins with several other community members, sound familiar ?

Lastly ignore could be improved so that you see nothing of a post from a troll

 

The only thing requiring improvement is your attitude.

Even discussing a simple piece of plastic wrap and off you go again on another salty rampage, spewing hate/insult based tirades.
Tailing me around with a clear purpose to harass, name call, insult and, demean wherever possible, desperately trying to control the narrative or shut down free speech, ridiculing advice from my ppf guy, makes any talk of trying to avoid or ignore me even less believable than before - if that was possible.

I don't profess to be an expert which is exactly why I've gone back and consulted with my ppf guy with a view to double check and ensure the quality of any advice previously offered. If you don't wish to believe what he has said, fine by me. Btw OP seems to have no interest anyway so honestly, it's really not worth getting yourself all worked up over.

 

Wow a raw nerve , and more blah blah with accusations time to go to bed for you

 

No worries cpiguy - just thought as you hadn’t replied to anything you may have lost interest.
So is your guy using the 1700 roll?
Fwiw i was chatting to my ppf guy a few days back over another job hes doing for me and i happened to mention the 296 (which he will also do for me when the time comes) and he didn’t see any need for seams on the car using the 1700. He indicated hed done 296 so had experience with it. I can press him further if you wish as im over there next week on another matter.

 

Your team is right , the relief cut is needed in a couple of places to get the film to adhere properly . Good luck with the job

 

Depends if you trust a guy with a knife cutting next to paint. Hand cuts are best -
No visible seams on 296 and it's opaco - likely need stress cuts - some products installed correctly you will not see a cut.
The harder to work with products are used by the better installers - lazy installers use pre cut and leave edges exposed. Best to ask your Ferrari or local exotic dealer who they use.

 

Agree installlers that are good take the program and alter it for a better wrap , edges etc . That seam on the hip of the car near the air intake I have seen close up on a couple of cars . The installers are getting better as they work with more 296’s

 

Yes - Expel 99.9% is software not a product maker.
As the software updates they get better.
Best to go where they have done 296's - some products work better than others depends on the installer who does it perfect and willing to remove bad pieces vs shops that say it looks ok.

 

if you are doing a full body wrap there are going to be relief cuts somewhere. You may not see them easily if the installer is good, but they will be there due to the body curves.