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  1. Horsefly

    Horsefly F1 Veteran

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    So it was only through the inspection by Gaetano Florini, then Director General of the Technical Assistance Department of Ferrari, that the car was officially deemed to be authentic???
     
  2. zjpj

    zjpj F1 Veteran

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    I agree - buy both, send them to Classiche...
     
  3. amenasce

    amenasce Three Time F1 World Champ
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    and then to me ! :D
     
  4. bigodino

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    Maybe that someone could be you? :)
     
  5. Napolis

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    I doubt that the one I want is or will be for sale as it's sitting getting dusty in a Museum in Indy...
     
  6. amenasce

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    Make them a sicilian offer :)
     
  7. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    I'l mention that to Sal...

    :)
     
  8. BigTex

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    That's a good one...I've visited it............

    Get Tony George on the line....they don't care about them furrin' cars.......they sent it out to Pebble?

    It can't be too dusty then, they had to rinse the salt off....
     
  9. BigTex

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    They 'lost' one of AJ's donated midgets during one event.......these things happen...;)
     
  10. BigTex

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    The white/blue striped one has a much nicer interior, though........
     
  11. dretceterini

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    You want to screw them up even more?? :)
     
  12. iwanna860monza

    iwanna860monza Karting

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    Good one Dr.
    But seriously it does make sense to combine both right, but do you think there would be money in it or will it always be known as the car that was cut in 2 and thus worth very little.

    Cheers
    Tim
     
  13. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    One legitimate and one outright fake, which would be seized by the Italian authorities, and crushed.......

    They are better off running around apart!

    Strange to see it in the Autoweek ads, though.
     
  14. Christian.Fr

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    brillant, and the winer is...
     
  15. PSk

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    Ofcourse it would always have this history, but there is no need to hide it.

    Many race cars in particular sometimes have very hard lives, but this car would definitely be a better and more legit car if the original motor was installed in the chassis (that still contains the original chassis number).

    I'd buy it, actually I'd by the NY car as that is 6045 as far as I am concerned. The chassis is the car and that car has the original chassis tag and large % of the original chassis (I believe). Also because Ferrari were involved in it's repairs, I'm pretty sure they would certify this one ... if they ever were asked.
    Pete
     
  16. Horsefly

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    I thought that this link indicated that they already WERE asked, and DID certify the car as original?
    http://wspr-racing.com/chassis/250LM.htm
     
  17. dretceterini

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    I'm not sure if there is enough left to make one truely legitimate car and a fake.
     
  18. Horsefly

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    Would the Italian authorities seize an outright REPLICA that was portrayed as a REPLICA? Or would they view it like a fake Gucci item: Built without proper authorization and subject to seizure and destruction?
     
  19. PSk

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    I do, remember continuous history.

    Sure the real car (once reunited with it's original engine) would only be as close as possible to how it left the factory, but importantly one could easily and accurately trace it's history from the factory to now, and know which parts have been replaced as part of maintenance/restoration.

    Buy any serious race car that has been pranged and this is usually as good as it gets ... Alfa 8c's are good examples of this.
    Pete
     
  20. Old Guy

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    The car in question has not been presented to the Classiche Department for certification, and Ferrari has not certified 6045 LM as authentic.

    On the other hand, since J. Gary made all these statements in a couple of FAXes, since he's trying to sell the car, and since it's on the Internet, I guess it must all be true.
     
  21. PSk

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  22. Horsefly

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    Are we dealing with an extreme technicality here? The "Classiche Department" of 2006 versus "Gaetano Florini, at the time he was Director General of the Technical Assistance Department of Ferrari" in 1986?

    Which holds greater credence AT THIS TIME?
     
  23. t walgamuth

    t walgamuth Formula Junior

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    i read recently of a valuable racing car of which there were two with the same number like this. one collector in i think holland bought both and was going to combine them and end up with one indisputable car and a replica for track days.

    i think he didn't care if it all worked money wise, but i suspect it would.

    can't remember if it was a ferrari or another brand of car.

    btw i love the look of the 250lm. ferrari's first mid engine racing sports car. it is compact and kindof brutal looking.... a lot like the ford gt 40 aesthetically, the original one. but the ferrari is better looking imho.

    tom w
     
  24. amenasce

    amenasce Three Time F1 World Champ
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    What about the 2 offered at Jean Guikas GTC shop ?

    http://www.guikasgtc.fr/cadre.asp

    I have seen them and they are beautiful. I cant decide between the short or long nose though..
     
  25. dretceterini

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    OK. I was unaware how much of the original body/chassis unit still is contained in the car.
     

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