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250 SWB Comp Re-Creation

Discussion in 'Recreations & Non-Period Rebodies' started by Zedtt, Apr 6, 2012.

  1. xs10shl

    xs10shl Formula 3

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    Well said Rob.

    I happen to like the car. To me, it's not so much about the history when it comes to GT cars, and more about the driving experience. GT cars are for driving, not displaying. If this Ferrari-stye retrofit makes it more akin to a real SWB, It will undoubtedly be much more fun to drive.
     
  2. GTE

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    And what exactly has that got to do with butchering a nice GTE? There are many, many cars that are fun to drive without having their chassis' cut and their original bodies removed. Please, pick one of those and stay away from vintage Ferrari's.
     
  3. VIZSLA

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    I see no reason why anyone who wants to can't have a reproduction of the Mona Lisa on their wall.
    There's no reason to paint over an original Da Vinci to make it though.
     
  4. GTE

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    Well, aparently, in the end it is all about business and therefore M O N E Y. And what is heritage when you want a car that is fun to drive, right? Of course I am being sarcastic, but I just can't wrap my head around the thought that it is OK, or even applaudable, to destroy a perfectly good Ferrari just so you can have a car that is fun to drive (like a GTE isn't fun to drive, but hey...).

    Perhaps the distinction is between those who love cars (case in point: vintage Ferrari's) and those who love to drive. You can belong to both groups, but if you belong to the group of people that love to drive ánd you feel it is ok to cut up a vintage Ferrari to fulfill that need, than you cannot belong to the group that truly love cars.
     
  5. GTE

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    Go to the giftshop at The Louvre and get one for a few EURO's. Same goes for cars that are fun to drive: they are pretty easy to come by. You don't even need to bring a boatload of cash. There is no need to cut up a vintage Ferrari. Or any car for that matter.
     
  6. rob lay

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  7. xs10shl

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    I'm happy to not cut up another GTE, as it's too much work, but I can buy any rebody I want to. If I stay away, it will be my decision, not yours.
     
  8. VIZSLA

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    You did read the second line of my post, didn't you?
     
  9. GTE

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    I did. I just went out of my way to agree with you. Sorry bout that.
     
  10. VIZSLA

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    ;)

    Not everyone here appreciates nuance.
     
  11. ApexOversteer

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    Well, to be honest, with their history, one could argue that Fantasy Junction is the premiere dealer of quality replicas, rebodies and recreations across a range of marques...

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  12. tomgt

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    fantasy cars........like Disney
     
  13. thecheddar

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    I'm getting fed up with this childish desire to put cars in little boxes with labels rather than discuss the merits of their machinery like adults.

    Replicas/re-creations exist, period. Some (but certainly not this one) are more true to form than the "originals." With Ferrari 12-cylinder powerplants at heart (typically), I don't care what the shape du jour is. It's vintage Ferrari-related and it's worth discussing like a grown-up.

    Or skipping entirely if you can't.
     
  14. ferraripete

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    very well said!
     
  15. tongascrew

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    Absolutely. In my sugestion for a "replica" category I state that the paperwork and body badge must list not only the s/n of the donor chassis but also the s/n of the engine being used. just one man's opinion tongascrew
     
  16. tongascrew

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    Good point. And immition crab meet doesn't really taste like the real thing. Also note the lable must also read "imitation". Very important. Same should apply to "replica" Ferraris. just one man's opinion tongascrew
     
  17. Bullfighter

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    Buyers (few of them children) pay big money for authenticity because they value it above all else: i.e., those "little boxes" matter.

    I don't quite know how a fake would be "truer to form" than an original, but I'm more interested in cars Ferrari built than in cars some guy built using Ferrari parts and copying someone else's design.

    I appreciate that kit cars/replicas have a following, but those followers have different priorities. A drive in a fake 250 GT SWB is pretty meaningless, IMHO.

    Glad to see the replicas 'outed' here for the record.
     
  18. GTE

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    yes, and...

    ...yes!
     
  19. master631

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    re-creation of what?was this car a GTO with the body of a GTE?no,the right name is camufflage.In Italy there is the fashion to call the scavengers as ecological operators,but they work always with trash,nothing vs the craftmans and vs the right of the owner to do all that he want about his properties,before using the word recreation should wait for the GTE become rarer more than the SWB and GTO so he can recreate the GTE, will not be long: D
    wishes
    Salvatore Murgo
     
  20. tongascrew

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    What a great post!! It took a while but this captures what this sub forum is all about. All aspects of the discussion are captured here and the door is still wide open. I am sort of the "catchall" type who has interests in all sides as long as the quality is of a high grade. The replica/reproduction of the 250 SWB which is the subject of this post is a fine example of this. However an important issue is missing. The fact that this car fooled people at an prominent car show begs the need for clear doccumentation on the car that it is not an original 250 SWB. A nice tastful chrome script stating "reproduction" or "repl;ica" on the trunk lid and the front of the hood would do just fine. tongascrew
     
  21. Napolis

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    A lot of people agree with you. MANY of these fakes have been for sale for many years and IMO at the price they're offered at will continue to be.

    Best
     
  22. VIZSLA

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    The "fakes" suffer from the same resale fate as many customized machines do. It's hard to sell on one man's dream. Particularly at what it cost to realize.
    It's bad enough to lose an original. Worse when the result becomes an orphan, left to rot.
     
  23. jjmcd

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    With some exceptions, the people who are most into the historical aspects of these cars are hobbyists who tend not to actually own one of them, making the "enjoy the drive" aspect impossible.
     
  24. miurasv

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  25. jsa330

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    I'd scoop one up at the right distress-sale price and a have blast...don't give a RA about concours or show, no one else knows it's a fake.

    I only hope that my old s/n 4509 got a nice rebody over being parted out.

    What I'd really like is to see it emerge Classiche-restored to original.
     

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