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250 GTO For sale with Talacrest.

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  1. Gatorrari

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  2. freestone

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    I really don't think so. A good GTO in my mind sells for more. Every time.
     
  3. Timmmmmmmmmmy

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    If nothing else, Talacrest is getting millions worth of free advertising
     
  4. tilomagnet

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    Correct. The GTO moniker attracts quite a few more potential buyers...no way will the 275 fetch more, Le Mans win or not. I also believe 0856 would be on par with top tier GTOs and considerable more than Henn car.
     
  5. 360modena2003

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    How would the 330 GTO and 250 LM compare to the value of a "regular" 250 GTO?
     
  6. GHG

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    250 LM 5893 is supposedly insured for over $70M.
     
  7. RWP137

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    It's still a lot less money then some have paid for artwork in the past, and I think this is one of the most beautiful pieces ever created. Plus, you can drive it...
     
  8. Ian Nersesian

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    Someone with $60m for a single car would already have a fleet of fabulous cars.
     
  9. Lusso123

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    Agreed.
     
  10. Caeruleus11

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    I agree with you guys. Who's to say what its really worth? I guess the person who buys it!

    I'd rather have this car than a canvas with some color on it... :)
     
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  12. freestone

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    That author shows pure ignorance. They only focus on auction results and sales ads.

    It would take 2 of those to come close to the value of a certain pre war Alfa
    And forget a certain Mercedes SLR that won the MM...
     
  13. johngtc

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    On 02/10/12 Marcel Massini posted the following on the thread 'Most Valuable Ferrari?'

    'Not a 250 GTO. It must be 6885, Preston Henn's fabulous yellow 275 GTB Competizione Speciale which is considered to be the 1965 GTO. It is 36 times rarer than any GTO.'

    I've heard that he knows a bit about Ferrari!!
     
  14. BMW.SauberF1Team

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    It's rarer for sure, but not nearly as pretty a car as the Series I GTO imo. The "330 GTO" seems like a pretty cool car, too. :)
     
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    Except that there were three of them. And they have always sold below a GTO. Understood that Henn's has the race history.

    But talk to a few of the owners of GTO's about their views; I have.

    I am quite sure he doesn't believe it either.

    And importantly, it won't get you invited to the GTO anniversaries like the 55th. That's an important and exclusive club.
     
  16. miurasv

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    #66 miurasv, Nov 17, 2016
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    There are actually only 2 330 GTOs (330 LM), one of which, 3765LM last left the factory converted with a 250 (P) engine and a 5 speed GTO gearbox (originally 4 speed) to race in the 3 litre class so what the Factory now view this car as, a 250 GTO or a 330 LM, I do not know. It now (or was) I understand converted back to 4 litres with a correct type block (engine?) by its long time owner.

    The other one, 4561SA was built as a road car with a 50mm longer wheelbase for its tall French industrialist first owner Michel Paul-Cavalier but did do some club events later on in the UK.

    Stunning cars both of them.

    See here: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/vintage-thru-365-gtc4-sponsored-vintage-driving-machines/375818-gto-clarification-thread.html
     
  17. JWeilan

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    There's one of you in every financial conversation. When you find a perfect GTO with that racing heritage for less money, let me know.
     
  18. johngtc

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    I don't have a strong view on this but I think you will find that the other two 275 Speciales are very different from Preston Henn's car, although they may superficially look alike.

    I wouldn't presume to comment on Marcel's beliefs but I am sure he will chip in if he feels the need to do so.
     
  19. tomgt

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    car is now in Dubai
     
  20. thepinkumbrella

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    Not been sold there, only there for concours event.

    Paul
     
  21. miurasv

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    #71 miurasv, Jan 10, 2017
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    3387GT is featured in this month's Auto Italia magazine. Nice article but it didn't get a full width spoiler at Le Mans 1962 and didn't come 18th OA and 6th IC at Sebring 1963 which was 250 GTO 3223GT. 3387GT didn't race at Sebring, 1963.
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  22. thepinkumbrella

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    So 3387 GT is still available...

    How long was 3809 GT offered around for before Kidston found a home for it?
    How long was 5573 GT offered around for before the broker involved found a home for it?

    Both cars are now in fairly enthusiastic/collector hands.


    Is the fact 3387 GT is still available refelctive of 3387 GT, it's asking price or the lack of potential buyers?

    Paul
     
  23. Marcel Massini

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    3809 GT was on the market for several years, at least three.

    Marcel Massini
     
  24. 19633500GT

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    #74 19633500GT, Feb 11, 2017
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    Did #3387 ever come with livery like this? I've seen the #24 off to the side on the hood, but not up the middle.

    Never mind, this is 3987, found the answer.


    Weird enough, underneath all it says is "Produced for Ten Tenths LTD, London"?
     
  25. readplays

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    Hi Ken,
    I don't know what your comment links to but Ten Tenths is the company of Nicholas Berkeley Mason. Custodian of 3757 since 1978, and I'm told, a drummer of some renown. :p

    Ten Tenths was a rental company for exotics to the trade (film shoots, etc.) consisting of cars from Nick's collection and those of other vintage car collectors.
     

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