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250 Cali Classiche Certification

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  1. gcalex

    gcalex Karting

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    While the engine is "the heart", notion of a "VIN" is generally associated with a chassis number. And certainly no one would think taking a 250 TR engine and stuffing it into a GTE would suddenly mean that the GTE was now identifiable as a TR...:)

    Have to admit though, that the issue of "what would Enzo have thought" is an interesting one. I've often wondered whether the substitution of a real Testarossa for the fake Daytona in Miami Vice was because the fake Ferrari annoyed Enzo, or because FNA saw a marketing opportunity...

    Would Enzo disdain the amount of attention lavished on "obsolete cars", would he be pleased that extra revenue for Ferrari could be extracted from people lavishing such attention, or would he be annoyed that Ferrari was pandering to such things while the F1 team was not winning championships?

    If Ferrari were cleaning up in F1, "disdain" and "pleased" might be possibilities. Since Ferrari is not cleaning-up it does seem quite possible that "annoyed" is more likely...
     
  2. 3COL

    3COL Karting

    Jun 12, 2017
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    Sorry, I mean are there any photos of the car after the fire, in it’s burned and damaged state?

    Thank you
     
  3. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini F1 World Champ
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    Yes.

    Marcel Massini
     
  4. R3 Motorsports

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    To respond to some of you about the history of the 250 Cal LWB, the thread really is not a debate or discussion about its history or which state of completion its in the Classiche procedure. We simply want to let you all know that we can offer assistance to those of you out there that are interested in this process. Thanks to all that understand that we do not disclose information regarding our cars or the owners. Simply put this is confidential information. Our clients privacy is of the utmost importance to R3 Motorsports.

    Having said all of this, the car is well known in the inner circle of brokers and collectors. For those of you in the know, it has its story and there are a lot of rumors that quite frankly are incorrect. Stories are a big part of what many of the old historical cars have and the Classiche process helps validate fact from fiction. The refreshing part of the Classiche procedure, is that through the process of investigation and working with documents from the factory, we have learned much about the car and it has been a very positive experience. I can see how some of the restoration experts out there can be intimidated by the process. After all there are a lot of cars out there that have had issues that in order to be Classiche'd need to be corrected,.. unfortunately this costs a lot of money and some car owners will argue that there version of the car is correct and that the Factory is wrong... this is can be complicated. If you have any questions about this process, please feel free to PM us,we are here to help.

    Regarding this stunning and very important 250 cab, it will go through the process and receive its Classiche certificate. Ultimately, our focus and goal is to bring every car back to its only correct state which can only be verified and validated by Ferrari. When she's ready, we will show it to the world in all her glory that it really deserves.
     
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  5. Rossocorsa1

    Rossocorsa1 F1 Rookie

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    Thanks for your response. I hope it all goes well for you and your client.
     
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  6. rbryson

    rbryson Rookie

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    Ok I will bite how was this car able to get certified without the original engine in the period correct state?
     
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  7. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Two Time F1 World Champ

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    He never said it has been certified.
     
  8. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Two Time F1 World Champ

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    I know some of the people involved. Ferrari din't want that car on the air being represented as a Ferrari. So it should go into the annoyed column.
     
  9. gcalex

    gcalex Karting

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    Glad to hear it.

    Indignation is far more admirable than greed. (And more in line with the mental image that I like to keep for the Enzo Era.)

    Mind you, I was at least pleased by the fact that they used real Daytonas for any scenes with the engine-compartment open...:)
     
  10. gcalex

    gcalex Karting

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    Glad to hear it.

    Indignation is more admirable than greed. (And more in-line with the mental image I like to keep for the Enzo Era.)

    At least they used real Daytonas for any shots with the engine compartment open... :)
     

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