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  1. Alexander Anderson

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    #1 Alexander Anderson, Oct 27, 2023
    2023 Ferrari 296 GTB Assetto Fiorano First Test: Badass Record Breaker!

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    Let's skip the pleasantries, shall we? The 2023 Ferrari 296 GTB Assetto Fiorano is the quickest rear-wheel-drive production car MotorTrend has ever tested. Each of the six quicker cars we've tested relies on all-wheel-drive traction to save a precious tenth or two in the 0-60-mph sprint and only two cars, each making more than 1,000 hp, can beat the rear-drive Ferrari in a quarter-mile drag.



    How Fast Is Fast?
    The numbers: The 2023 Ferrari 296 GTB hits 60 mph from a stop in 2.3 seconds, beating the previous record holder by a single tenth of a second. That car? The mighty LaFerrari in all its electrically enhanced V-12 glory.

    Keep the throttle pinned, and the 296 GTB cracks off a 9.6-second quarter-mile time at 149.6 mph, putting it in extremely rarified air. The only two cars capable of a quicker pass are the Tesla Model S Plaid and the Lucid Air Sapphire, both of which make hundreds of additional horsepower and drive all four of their wheels.

    Neck and neck with the Ferrari 296 at the finish line is the Ferrari SF90 Stradale Assetto Fiorano, the quickest hybrid and quickest combustion-powered car we've ever tested. With an extra 168 hp, three times as many electric motors, and two more cylinders, the SF90 is quicker off the line and reaches 60 mph in 2.1 seconds, but those extras add another 311 pounds to the car's curb weight—allowing the lighter 296 GTB to reel it in by the quarter-mile finish line. In a photo finish, both cars cross the line in 9.6 seconds, but the 296 is travelling 4.4 mph faster at that point."

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    https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2023-ferrari-296-gtb-assetto-fiorano-first-test-review/
     
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    #2 bamaman, Oct 29, 2023
    Weight is everything. 296 prevails with only driven two wheels---now to Nurburgring.
     
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    #3 Alexander Anderson, Oct 30, 2023
    Sport Auto already took it there.





    Plus Hockenhiem
     
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    #4 CinciOptics, Nov 4, 2023
    We already knew that on track the AF pack + CF Wheels w/ Cup2R has a big advantage under ideal conditions however there is a reasonable increase in straight line performance too in the recent AF reviews.

    2.7-2.9 and 9.9 quarter non-AF vs. 2.3-2.4 and 9.6 quarter with the AF pack under the same testing conditions.

    Motortrend uses the opposite end of the strip (unprepped) which means the times could be even higher on a prepped surface like the run we saw with the Emily Hartford using a basic GTB. They also use the same rollout standard.

    I suspect the improvement in straight line time is most likely due to the carbon fiber wheels than anything else (not AF pack specific).

    A "softer" suspension and less downforce is more favorable in short runs like 0-60mph and the quarter up to around 140mph.

    The weight reduction on the AF Pack is minor and I believe none of the AF cars test have the Lexan window (optional) which is a big portion of that number.


    I have heard of some car manufacturers doing a very slight "stealth" tune with models equipped with track pack options. It was rumored that Ford did this with the GT500 CTFP when it was released.

    Probably not the case here but either way a 2.3 sec 0-60mph run on a rear wheel drive car on a decent (but unprepped) asphalt surface is impressive.
     
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    #5 Jo Sta7, Nov 4, 2023
    It’s beyond impressive. I can’t believe it can be replicated on a non prepped surface.
     
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    #7 rxbg, Nov 8, 2023


    it is faster than 765 LT
     
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    #8 rxbg, Nov 8, 2023
    pista was 21 sec faster around the ring than the 488. the 296 GTB VS could prob make a sub 6:40 time. sig faster than new GT3 RS.
     
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    #9 Jo Sta7, Nov 8, 2023
    I’m going to put that claim to the test next year.
     
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    #10 ipsedixit, Nov 8, 2023
    Can't wait.
     
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    #11 RADONCulous, Nov 8, 2023
    Looking forward to this!
     
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    #13 Ivan Drago, Nov 9, 2023
    The real question is will you drive one over your 765?
     
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    #15 Jo Sta7, Nov 10, 2023
    You want me to translate it for you? lol
     
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    #16 rxbg, Nov 10, 2023
    sure. i'll take hebrew, french, or spanish. but i only have one year of HS german under my belt so... i'll grab a cup of joe and will be back in a minute so hurry up.
     
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    #18 Jo Sta7, Nov 10, 2023
    Wow you really did it….

    studly
     
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    #19 rxbg, Nov 13, 2023
    imagine that VS. those will be some lucky SOBS
     
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    #20 Jo Sta7, Nov 13, 2023
    My main motivation for getting the 296….
     
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    #21 Divexxtreme, Nov 14, 2023
    The faster 1/4 mile time is 100% due to the tires. Put Cup 2’s on a non-AF pack car at the same location on the same day and it’ll run the same times.
     
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    #22 Jo Sta7, Nov 14, 2023
    And regardless I don’t think customer 296’s are ever running 9.6’s on a non prepped surface.
     
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    #23 kestrou, Nov 14, 2023
    As God is my witness... I'll own a 296 some day!!! :)

    Kevin
     
  24. CinciOptics

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    #24 CinciOptics, Nov 16, 2023
    Motortrend uses a non prepped surface.

    "we'll use local dragstrips, and we make it a rule to always run in the direction that is opposite to the race direction. Why? Because dragstrips aren't the real world. The launch area is often "rubbered in," and as with much of the race surface, it's also coated with a non-representative traction aid."

    Source: https://www.motortrend.com/features/motor-trend-testing/

    The cup 2r tires are amazing but I suspect it has more to do with the CF wheels rather than 4s vs 2r on their test surface.
     
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    #25 Divexxtreme, Nov 16, 2023
    I’ve been drag racing cars for around 37 years now. The CF wheels aren’t doing anything. It’s the tires. The sticky Cup 2Rs are getting 60’ times that the 4S can never match on a unprepped surface. And 1/4 mile E.T is all about the 60’ time.

    If they were using a prepped surface (the VHT laden area where you normally launch from on a dragstrip), then the 2Rs wouldn’t help as much because the VHT would make the 4S stick just as well.
     
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