Hey All, I spend a lot of time doing price research and gathering info. I hope to consolidate it best I can for the next guy. So I’ll be posting what I buy, from where, prices, and any major challenges I experience during the job. I used ScuderiaCarParts for much of the hardware. I was utterly impressed with their customer service when I called, I worked with Chris. I called because I wanted the Hill Engineering Release Bearing which is an upgrade (and cheaper) from OEM, but they didn’t list it on their website. They special ordered it for me. They also gave me a discount on everything for no reason, I didn’t even ask. For the clutch and flywheel, I used Velocity AP, a Canadian company. I called and spoke with Stuart, the owner. He spent a lot of time on the phone with me explaining his product. It’s OEM (using all original equipment and materials) but a fraction, a fraction of the cost… (YouTube link below) My friend bought a Huracan exhaust from Velocity AP and worked with Stuart on the install; my friend says he experienced great customer service and the product was high quality. Velocity AP: Clutch - $1595 Flywheel - $795 ScuderiaCarParts: Invoice attached Most notably, $365 for the sensor and $430 for the Hill Engineering Release Bearing Image Unavailable, Please Login Feel free to chime in with your experiences or advice. So far, my only concern is needing a specialty tool for the end of stroke studs; I may make my own or borrow one from someone on FChat (anyone?). More to come! Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
Following - this is a next year problem for me to tackle. The guys at Scuderia Car Parts have been super helpful with the couple of orders I've placed, and even with the additional fees coming from the UK, a lot of parts are still cheaper than Ricambi (to my surprise).
Here is the first if a series of videos that a fellow chatter did .. i am helping with final clutch setup /config Sent from my moto g power using Tapatalk
Scuderia car parts in my experience is also usually cheaper than Ricambi too. Your Youtube video isn't working by the way. Although my clutch is good, I am still waiting on someone to make a proper video, maybe it can be you?
I don’t think the video player in FChat works but if you push the title it should go to the link. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
Jake thanks for posting. Jake I see you did purchase from Veloscity What is your feedback. This seems like a good option. Thanks in Advance
I don’t have it in my hands yet. The customer service from Velocity AP was great. He spent a lot of time with me discussing the product. It’s essentially OEM because he bought rights to subcontract production with the exact machines and materials as factory. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
Yes. I didn’t consider other aftermarket clutches since Velocity AP is “aftermarket” but OEM since he bought the rights to make them using the same materials and equipment as OEM. At least that’s my understanding. Ricambi $3700 ScuderiaCarParts $2400 https://www.ricambiamerica.com/222090-f430-clutch-assembly.html https://www.ricambiamerica.com/222090-f430-clutch-assembly.html Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
I don't understand how something is considered OEM if its not made by the factory or was not a supplier to the factory. If something is made like OEM as a replacement that still isn't OEM.
Semantics, not sure your point. Original equipment manufacturer; if a part is made by the factory 10 years after production ends, is it OEM? Are subcontracted made parts OEM? Velocity AP got the rights to make clutches with the same materials and tools as original. Is this not OEM? Regardless, I don’t really care, hence me saying “aftermarket” in quotes. I don’t know what to call it because I think it’s neither OEM or aftermarket. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
My point? My point is you are saying something is OEM when it is not. If I make a door handle the same as the way it came from the factory you cannot call it OEM, but aftermarket. Nothing wrong with aftermarket so I am good with that. Sometimes aftermarket is better and cheaper than OEM so I am happy to see this when it comes time for me to need a clutch. I have also never heard of Ferrari selling the rights to other smaller companies to manufacture parts, especially parts that Ferrari still currently makes and sells.
That’s the thing, Ferrari actually doesn’t make the clutch. It’s subcontracted. Then Velocity AP bought the equipment / rights from that subcontractor to make it themselves. Call Velocity AP “aftermarket” or “OEM,” I don’t care but I’m just trying to explain the history behind their product versus semantics of what to call it. Ultimately, I agree with you on everything, but I’m just confused what to call their product. And yes, on a 15 year old car, “aftermarket” often does mean better than OEM due to improvement in tech and 15 years of sorting problems in OEM. Example, hill engineering throwout bearing. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
I’m going to start sharing the work process to diy clutch and flywheel replacement. See original thread for parts pricing and sources. I removed everything up top. See the pic of the cardboard for the process, it’s also how I keep my nuts/bolts organized and labeled. Notes: side panels had to come off for the main air intake box to come out. I’m leaving radiator reservoir attached but secured out of the way. Leaving MAFs on. I’m going to replace some isolators, heat insulation, and clean up before I put things back. This first step took less than an hour. Next: remove under-tray, rear diffuser, cats and exhaust. I’d love to have it on a lift but my 280z (broken with electrical gremlins) is blocking me from using the 599’s lift and my 348 TS is getting a new brake/clutch master so it’s not drivable and stuck on that lift. Good excuse to ask the wife for a 3rd lift? Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
When removing the under tray, I like to put a couple bundled up towels or rugs under it so as I remove the bolts it doesn’t hang too far which would put stress on the corners and crack them. With the under tray out, it’s a good time to do some fiberglass repair on the corners, or even just strengthen them. Amazon has cheap fiberglass repair kits. Under trays are expensive! So take care of them. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
Note I forgot to include earlier: When removing the engine bay side panels you have to first remove all the bolts, then with a flat head screw driver pop up the clip on the strut that holds the hood. Then with one arm support the hood while the other arm pops off the strut. Then as one arm continues to hold the hood, wiggle the side panel towards the engine, then grab the strut and swing it in the gap and hook it on behind the panel. Then the hood is supported again and you can remove the panel. Removing Engine bay panels, diffuser, and under tray are usually a 2 man job. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
Jake: Glad to see you starting the process and having it well documented this will help the Fchat community which is what this forum is all about. As far as OEM vs Aftermarket it does not matter..what matters is that their claim to match the clutch material coincides with reality.! How it behaves when applicated will be factual proof..and just for the record you are 100% correct Ferrari never made their clutch's it was always sourced out this is how the majority of any OEM components are purchased. When that clutch is transmitting power from the engine to the gearbox over to the drive wheels and continues to perform flawlessly we will know if this product is true to their word. Good Luck and keep posting.
Put a trolley jack under them , it will support them until you get the bolts out, you can do on your own then
This is really semantics as a ton of “OEM” stuff isn’t even made by the OEM. Companies like Bosch, Denso, Alison, AC Delco, etc. make their living in this regard. Velocity AP is just another subcontractor that follows the original print. If you are making the part to the original print you are technically OEM. A lot of aftermarket try to reverse engineer the part which is why aftermarket generally have quality issues with obvious exceptions, hill engineering comes to mind. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat.com mobile app
Of course that is true, not all OEM parts are made by the manufacturer. But if you supply to the manufacturer then it's OEM. Copying something OEM that is not supplied to the manufacturer is not OEM.
