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  1. Flavio_C

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    Wouldn't a pool of German sponsors be interested in funding Vettel at Haas or even Racing Point?? Checo could get an indemnity to move to Haas...
     
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    Just had a funny thought.

    Seb jumps onto Racing Point for 2021.

    Seb beats Ferrari. :oops:
     
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    Not out of possibility at all. I can see this as well!
     
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    George Russell says he will be staying at Williams for a third year in 2021.

    The Briton, 22, said Williams deputy team principal Claire Williams had indicated to Mercedes, who manage him, that she wanted to keep him.

    Next year will be the final year of Russell’s Williams deal. Team-mate Nicholas Latifi said he was also under contract for 2021.

    “Claire was very firm in her decision that she was not ready to let me go," said Russell.

    "Ultimately, as I have a contract with Williams, I have to respect that decision.”

    https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/53435351
     
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  9. Mitch Alsup

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    True. They have pushed things so strongly. We ask for that. We want speed. Others must develop but resources are the issue. Cloning for all my friends lol :)
     
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    My take:
    - Kvyat is dumped from Toro Rosso.
    - Albon goes back to Toro Rosso.
    - Vettel goes to Red Bull.
     
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    https://www.planetf1.com/features/british-grand-prix-conclusions/

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    But it was not what Red Bull need from Verstappen’s team-mate. And even more disconcertingly for Albon, one place ahead of him, and outscoring him for the second time in four races this year, was the man whose seat he took – Pierre Gasly in the AlphaTauri.

    With another ex-Red Bull driver Daniil Kvyat having ended up against the wall at Maggots, Gasly is establishing himself as the top dog at AlphaTauri. The Frenchman appears to have regained the confidence that must have been shattered when he was demoted last season in favour of Albon.

    Just what is it about that other side of the Red Bull garage that means Verstappen’s team-mates, however talented they clearly are, simply cannot maximise their opportunity? Since Daniel Ricciardo moved on, that is.

    It’s a conundrum for Horner, Marko et al and while we fully expect Albon to have further chances to prove himself in the next two races at Silverstone and Barcelona, come Spa at the end of August it may just be different if things do not improve.

    After all, there is a precedent – it was before the 2019 Belgian Grand Prix that Albon and Gasly were swapped to their current teams…
     
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    One can suspect that the expectation and the pressure is less at Alpha Tauri than at Red Bull.
     
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    I can't understand why they are continuing with Bottas. The only reason I think would be a request from Hamilton to continue with him.
     
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    A) he is obedient and inexpensive
    B) he brings home enough points for the WCC
    C) he does not bother Lewis

    Mercedes care about WCC, Lewis cares about WDC. Do not lose sight of these driving goals.
     
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    Bottas onboard with Mercedes gaining wins and points for the team. Both the WDC and WCC have been obtained with him as a driver. I see no good reason to alter the situation at all.
     
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    Put the Hulk in a Red Bull
     
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    Gasly's home "ransacked" as thieves steal watches and helmets.
     
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    The Sport of Formula 1 Has Made More than $4 Billion from Advertising Tobacco to Fans


    Tobacco Giants Will Spend More Than $115 million in 2020 Season Despite Promise From F1 Governing Body To Ban Tobacco Advertising



    NEW YORK (July 29, 2020) — As Formula 1 celebrates its 70th season, new research finds that teams and events have sold $4.4 billion in advertising and sponsorship to tobacco companies over the years. The findings are published in the first-ever analysis of tobacco industry advertising in F1, based on data from F1 industry monitor Formula Money and released by global tobacco industry watchdog STOP.

    The new report, Driving Addiction: F1 and Tobacco Advertising, shows that Philip Morris International (PMI) and British American Tobacco (BAT) spent almost $100 million in 2019 and will spend $115 million in the 2020 season to target F1’s 500 million global fans. The sport has the second-highest proportion of fans under age 25 of all global sports leagues.

    PMI and BAT benefit greatly from their involvement in the sport, including their chosen brands featuring prominently on race cars and driver suits. According to the research, media coverage of the 2019 races alone generated exposure worth at least $150.3 million for PMI’s “Mission Winnow” brand through its sponsorship of the Ferrari team and $27.6 million for the brands BAT is promoting through its sponsorship of the McLaren team.

    F1’s Failed Commitment To Health
    F1’s governing body, the FIA (Federation Internationale de l’Automobile), made a public commitment in 2001 that it would ban tobacco sponsorship from international motor sport by 2006, in line with a World Health Organization treaty, the Framework Convention on Tobacco Control (WHO FCTC). But in 2003 the FIA watered down its commitment to a “recommendation” that promoters and competitors cease all forms of tobacco sponsorship from October 1, 2006. Many tobacco companies had already agreed to leave the sport in or before 2006, but the FIA’s diluted stance meant that a full ban was never enforced.

    Since then, the FIA has allowed PMI to continue its association with F1. In the past two years, under the watch of the FIA and Liberty Media, the sport’s owner since 2017, the new research shows PMI’s sponsorship activity has increased and BAT has returned to the sport. In 2019, the WHO called on F1 to ensure that the sport’s activities and participants, including race teams, are not sponsored by tobacco companies. In 2020, PMI and BAT remain as sponsors. STOP is calling on the FIA, Liberty Media and F1 teams to finally end all tobacco advertising and sponsorship in F1.


    Additional Findings
    • F1 is one of the last global sports series – along with Moto GP – that still takes tobacco industry money.
    • In 2019, tobacco company spending increased to 9.4% of all team sponsorship by value, the highest share since 2011.
    • To maximize media exposure, tobacco company brands are situated at the most visible points of the car livery and driver suits of the two teams.
    • Races are broadcast to massive global audiences on TV and online, helping tobacco companies to subvert national bans on advertising their products, including e-cigarettes.
    • 62% of fans F1 gained in the last two years were under the age of 35 years.
    Caroline Reid of Formula Money, a co-author of the report said: “For tobacco companies, the benefits are clear. This is a global sport that draws more than 500 million fans worldwide, mostly young and male—a prized demographic. And tobacco companies receive a real return on investment – which we calculated to exceed $150 million last year. This figure is based on race coverage alone, not qualifying rounds, news reports or other media, so the total value is probably much higher.”

    “Tobacco companies are ploughing more money into F1 as they look to hook yet another generation on their harmful products. Sports-related advertising has been a key strategy in the tobacco industry’s targeting of youth,” said Phil Chamberlain, a partner in STOP. “In a typically slippery move, PMI and BAT claim that they aren’t directly advertising cigarette brands. But according to trademarks registered by the companies, these brands are associated with tobacco products. The money, ultimately, comes from manufacturing and selling products that contribute to the deaths of more than 8 million people every year.”

    “We must not go backwards in the fight against tobacco. We call on governments to enforce strong bans on all advertisement, promotion and sponsorship of tobacco and related products. Promoting these products attracts new tobacco users, especially among young people, causing harm for generations to come,” said Ruediger Krech, Director of Health Promotion, World Health Organization.

    The Executive Summary and Full Report are available at exposetobacco.org/driving-addiction

    Mary Assunta, a partner in STOP concluded: “Governments and the public should not be fooled. PMI and BAT are using their new products to try to justify their resurgence in F1, but WHO is clear that FCTC-compliant tobacco sponsorship bans apply to companies as well as products. Worse, BAT is using its sponsorship to directly advertise its new products when many countries around the world have banned these products or restrict their sale and advertising. The sport is allowing BAT to undermine these restrictions, just as it helped tobacco companies circumvent cigarette advertising bans in the past. The FIA claims that it wants to promote a net positive contribution to society. That’s not possible while it is still linked to an industry that causes such harm.”

    https://exposetobacco.org/news/f1-advertises-tobacco/

     
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    That anti tobacco advertising article contains a photo of a tobacco advertising.

    Streissand effect at full effect.
     
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    I have yet to see one report about the alcohol ads....whether good or bad.
     
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    To paraphrase the great Homer Simpson:

    Tobacco, booze, fast cars, my only weaknesses .....
     

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