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Discussion in 'F1' started by Mitch Alsup, Mar 19, 2020.

  1. jgonzalesm6

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    That's a win-win for Mclaren.

    McLaren gets Mercedes engines and it's quite possible they get Ricciardo.

    Things are finally looking up for McLaren with Siedl on-board too.
     
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  3. william

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    Yes, very good news for McLaren!

    If confirmed, they will have all the stars aligned for next year: management, engine and driver.

    I can start rooting for them again !
     
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  4. Nembo1777

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    Alonso to Renault?
     
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    Both Renault & Alonso were teasing this on their Twitter feed yesterday
     
  6. Nembo1777

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    Makes sense. But two hard bastards such as Ocon and Fernando....sparks....whereas at McLaren Daniel and Lando what a cool line up, if you had told me in the days of evil Darth Vader Ron Dennis that I would ever like a McLaren line up...!
     
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  8. Bas

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    Le Unions will love that.

    Lol

    Alonso....once again to renault. This time Renault will be roughly where Mclaren was when he was really enjoying it so much.

    Wait. Enjoying not the right word...
     
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  10. Bas

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    Of course that bastard Abitoul wants it all included.

    On paper the drivers may not receive more than whatever it says, but that won't stop teams paying the driver from an outside company...lets say Red Bull F1 pays max 100K, but Red Bull Drinks will pay Max the other 39.9 million for erm, promotional work.

    There'll likely be a post-Corona crisis period which will limit the money made in the sport. But after that big money will be paid again.
     
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  12. Flavio_C

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    Exactly. Not so long ago the Nelson Piquet's contract with Lotus was reavaled and most of his salary was paid by Camel directly.
     
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  13. william

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    It has always been the case, that some sponsors paid the drivers directly,and not the team.
    When they were team mates, Senna was paid by Honda, and Prost by McLaren.
    Marlboro also paid some drivers directly, etc ...
     
  14. Mitch Alsup

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  16. Adrian Thompson

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    Forget including drivers salaries, how about we deduct what 'Pay drivers' bring to a teams budget allowance to disincentivize the practice?:p
     
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  17. william

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    I disagree there. I see nothing wrong with pay drivers. If they can get a Superlicense, they are OK with me.
    In fact, pay drivers have allowed some teams to survive or overcome a bad patch.
    It's in part thanks to pay drivers that Racing Point (or whatever it will be called) and Williams may still be on the grid next year.
     
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  18. Adrian Thompson

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    I 100% agree with you, hence my smiley emoji. Pay drivers have always been part of the sport including hacks like Lauda, Senna etc. :p
    Please note there's another smiley on the end of that sentence to denote humor!

    I'd argue that people like Schumacher and Hamilton were also pay drivers as Mercedes and McLaren paid for them to get into F1 respectively.
     
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    As the start of the 2020 season is getting closer and I think about watching the long-anticipated races, I realized that, with one or two exceptions, the current crop of F1 drivers is totally unappealing, not worthy of following, and that this pretty much applies to the teams as well.
     
  20. Bas

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    Isn't it ironic how he of all people is moaning about the budget and needing the driver salaries included? He is the one that paid Ricciardo 30 million a season to drive his dogshit car. Surely he should know that paying a driver stupid money doesn't guarantee results?

    If Williams paid Verstappen 500 million a season that car would still barely be a regular point scorer.
     
  21. Bas

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    Surely this makes it even easier for a rival series to emerge? F1 tends to get the better drivers, BUT this is partially offset because of the salary they (can) command.

    Lets say F1 teams can't pay their top drivers decent salaries any longer. We all know the more invested into the car, the faster it goes. So salary of driver inevitably goes down. F1 introduces a salary cap of 5m. I guarantee you, the top F1 boys will be heading overseas.

    NFL style ownership of teams, exciting engines, decent salaries, an environment where all teams can be competitive, easy viewing through Netflix, youtube, whatever....a ''GP1'' series was never born so easy.
     
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    Valtteri Bottas will remain at Mercedes in 2021 with a new deal having been agreed in principle, sources have revealed to Autosport.

    While a final contract has yet to be signed off, both team and driver have agreed terms for their partnership to continue in Formula 1 at least for next year on the back of the Finn's strong start to the campaign.

    The agreement, which has been put together in the last few days, came after Mercedes CEO Ola Kallenius gave his blessing during a visit to the Austrian Grand Prix to an unchanged line-up for next season.

    "We'll stay with our two boys," he told Sky Germany.

    The deal for Bottas will now clear the way for Mercedes to make progress in hammering out a fresh contract with Lewis Hamilton, who has yet to agree terms for next season but is also expected to stay.

    https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/150556/bottas-to-stay-at-mercedes-with-new-2021-f1-deal
     
  24. DeSoto

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    IIRC, at first Marlboro didn´t pay Ferrari: the deal was that they payed the driver salaries.
     
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    Indycar is bursting with young talent, the more the merrier.

    Again where would he go?
     
  26. Bas

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    Just need to up the power on the indycars.
    He can't go anywhere.
     
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    Retire ?
     

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