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Discussion in 'F1' started by Mitch Alsup, Mar 19, 2020.

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  1. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    One of many falling down to earth after a few years of dreaming perhaps.

    Aiming too high perhaps?
     
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  2. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Then don't watch it.
     
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  3. ndpendant

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    I guess im romantic for the golden time of F1, V12s, power and a "run what you brung" attitude. Drivers with attitude, grudges and rivalries beyond the top 3. diving in to corner after corner and not one pass every 4th lap. I want to love F1 again, its kinda like watching the chicago bears now with 1985 in my head.
     
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  4. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Da Ditka versus da mini Bears.
     
  5. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    I can't stand those moaning minnies that never stop saying F1 is boring, F1 is dead, etc ...

    Nobody forces them to watch, but at least they could have the decency to keep quiet.
     
  6. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Personally, I find triathlon dead boring.

    Guess what; I don't watch it !!!
     
  7. DeSoto

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    Well, at least Alesi won´t try to buy a seat for his son.
     
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  8. Mitch Alsup

    Mitch Alsup F1 Veteran

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    Would you rather have all the artificial passing in NASCRAP ?
     
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  9. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    I live near an iconic baseball stadium. Even had one of the great players as my next door neighbor. But I couldn't care less about baseball. So what do I do?

    I don't talk about it.
     
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  10. johnireland

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    I can't remember the name of the original sanctioning body...but it was going down the toilet. I believe it was Penske who took some of the teams and broke away and started the Champ Car series. And it was successful. He put them on road courses as well, and the racing got even better. I think my memory is right on this. Then they merged back into becoming Indy Car so they could run the 500...they then, under Tony George, degenerated into a spec series.

    I'd love to see McLaren, Haas, Renault, Racing Point, Williams, maybe Red Bull all walk away from FIA and Liberty and start their own series with their own rules. Go back to 3 liter naturally asperated engines or 1.5 liter turbos, allow open testing, give strict aero rules, dump the mega expensive technology, beyond that let the teams do what they want and run what they brung. No refueling during a race for safety and simplicity. Let them hire and fire drivers at will, let them run as few as one car and as many as three cars in a race. Get a tire manufacturer to offer three tires...hard, soft, and rain. That's it for the full season. The teams have the entire season to make them work as best they can. No mandatory pit stops or any of that foolishness. As for tracks, there are lots of them all over the world, I don't think they would have trouble putting together a 15 race schedule the first year...and if the racing is good, I think that would be enough. As a fan, I'd walk away from F1 in a minute to see that.
     
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  11. Ferrari 308 GTB

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    Maybe put all the older geezers in the cars too?

    Alesi, Rosberg,Mansell,Mika,Fittipaldi,Verstappen lol,Hill,Herbert, even Brundle,Irvine,Mario!Prost,Berger..

    Yeh i'm in . any more?
     
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  12. Ferrari 308 GTB

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    Yuki Tsunoda is coming soon...nickname Tsunami?

     
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  13. william

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    #238 william, Nov 11, 2020
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    It was USAC that still exists. Your chronology isn't strictly accurate.
    Some team owners decided to break away and form their own series Champ Car, taking with them most of the tracks, but not Indianapolis.
    For years Champ Cars were welcome at Indianapolis, under USAC jurisdiction, until Tony George decided to start its own low-cost series IRL .
    Champ Car teams then had to buy an IRL specs car to run one race at the Indianapolis 500, still considered the jewel on the crown.
    The 2 series ran in parallel for years, but whilst IRL grew up in strength slowly, Champ Car declined following a rift among team owners.
    Several Champ Car team owners deserted to IRL, and finally Champ Car collapsed.
    The merger created Indycar which is now under Roger Penske.
     
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  14. Isobel

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    Being a ‘minny’ myself, I’m sympathetic with those who criticize. I’ve opted to continue my leaf-blowing chores rather than watch F1 live, only to find more often than not it was the right call, ie; Ham/Bot/Ver.

    This from someone who used to set the alarm clock for 3 am and watch a race via Toe Knee’s provided streaming link on Fchat.

    At least us militant yawners remain peripherally interested, that’s a damn sight better than those who walk away permanently without bothering to mention why. ;)
     
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  15. 375+

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    Welcome back!
     
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  16. 375+

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    The breakaway series was CART. At its peak it was more competitive/exciting than F1. They need to rebottle that.
     
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  17. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    You are correct, it was CART.
    Yes, CART was becoming F1 biggest rival at one point, and attractive to F1 drivers (Piquet, Mansell), Fabi, etc ...).
    Why it failed I can't fathom out, but I guess that not being in control of the Indy 500 was a fatal flaw.
     
  18. Mitch Alsup

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    There was this race at Texas where the drivers were nearly passing out due to the high banking an 5+Gs sustained for 15 seconds at a time in the turns; with multiple big single car crashes during practice.
    CART and the drivers/teams cancelled the race Saturday night only 18 hours before the race was to begin.
    It never recovered.

    CART was on par with F1 in motor performance 850-950 HP
    IRL was running at 600-650 HP and considerably slower.
     
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  19. 375+

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    Bingo! Sponsors valued Indy above all else and demanded that their teams race there.
     
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  20. johnireland

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    Thanks for the corrections and filling in the blanks.
     
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  21. DF1

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    Hi!
     
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  22. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Welcome back Is!

    I've loved F1 for as long as I can remember. So you're damn right I'm sitting here moaning every weekend, seeing the sport I love deteriorate with every decision they take...
     
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  23. Isobel

    Isobel F1 World Champ

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    Very kind of you.

    Not actually back though... ;).
     
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  24. Mitch Alsup

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    Is that because you never really left ?
    or because you can't really stay ?
     
  25. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    She was banned for three months because of her foul language she uses all the time and the political comments she spreads all over the F1 forum.

    You want a link? Well, let me look for some... :p
     

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