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2020 Barcelona Testng: Feb. 19th - 21st & Feb. 26th - 28th

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  1. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 F1 Veteran
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    First 3 days of pre-season testing in Barcelona - teams' kilometreage
    1. Mercedes 2300km
    2. Red Bull 2193km
    3. Alfa Romeo 1974km
    4. McLaren 1969km
    ...
    8. Ferrari 1648km
    9. Williams 1508km
    10. Haas 1471km


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    Engine manufacturer's mileage:
    1. Mercedes 5535km
    2. Ferrari 5093km
    3. Honda 3980km
    4. Renault 3738km

    per car:
    1. Honda 1990km
    2. Renault 1869km
    3. Mercedes 3845km
    4. Ferrari 1698km


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  2. SimCity3

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    These two British brands still employ many British staff.

    Merc F1 is wholly British. Budweiser could buy it from Mercedes and it wouldn't make any difference to their performance.
     
  3. DF1

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    Fully agree on Melbourne
     
  4. GordonC

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    Yup. At the time, Allison's departure was announced as a mutual decision. His role had already been altered over the winter, and it was reported that he was unhappy with the interference of Marcionne in the operations of the team. Certainly the death of his wife was a factor, but there were additional factors. "Spending more time with his children" was less likely a major long term factor, as they were already adults at the time.

    In July 2016, Wheels24 noted a report from Auto Motor und Sport: F1 report: Allison fell out with Ferrari boss https://www.wheels24.co.za/FormulaOne/f1-report-allison-fell-out-with-ferrari-boss-20160728

     
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  5. DF1

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    A team dedicated to excellence no matter the nationality it appears. Austrian, Brit or otherwise lol :)
     
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  6. DF1

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    The 'political' side of the sport on display with that situation. Arrive had to deal with Sergio and Sergio always got what he wanted. I dont think Arrive had alot of fun under that regime...........
     
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  7. Kiwi Nick

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    "...lubrication problem has stopped Vettel."

    More Chianti por favori!
     
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  8. classic308

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    Ferrari is based in Emilia-Romagna, not Tuscany so the wine of choice would be a Lambrusco, not a Chianti.

    un’altro bottiglia di Lambrusco mentre lavoriamo su questo motore!
     
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  9. TifosiUSA

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    #359 TifosiUSA, Feb 21, 2020
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    Ha, that source leaves a lot to be desired (AMuS talks out of their posterior a LOT) and he was gone regardless after his wife died. He was unhappy away from England. I don't put that one on Ferrari. I agree that they have let others go too early like Costa and forcing Schumacher out was reprehensible. He coasts to the 2007 and 2008 titles if they don't do that.
     
  10. WPOZZZ

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    Chill a Cella?
     
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  11. SPEEDCORE

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  12. ypsilon

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    Glad we finally know now it was the marketing departments of Jaguar, Land/Range Rover, British Leyland, Rover, MG, Mini, TVR, Lotus, Bristol, Bentley and Rolls Royce that made a mess of things and led to the demise of the British car industry under British ownership.

    British excellence and impeccable engineering was obviously never in doubt.
     
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  13. william

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    I blame the trade unions; they ruin everything.
     
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  14. Mitch Alsup

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    Do you enjoy::
    a) weekends
    b) 40 hour week
    c) weekends
    d) vacation
    e) pensions
    f) sick leave
    g) retirement
    If so, you should thank a Union or two.
     
  15. Kiwi Nick

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    You can thank Henry Ford for the 40-hour workweek. 1914, pre-UAW by about 20 years. I assume that it also included "weekends."
     
  16. Ferrari 308 GTB

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    https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/148363/racing-point-das-benefit-has-to-justify-investment

    Pink Merc playing down the urgency to get it ..time will tell.

    Surely Ferrari will have to develop their own?Bottas said they started development about a year ago...so no quick fix.

    Ferrari must have been absolutely floored when they saw this ,on top of their existing issues with the car.Looks like the are resigned already to a crap year ...they can just blame it on DAS.
     
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    All I will say is that I worked approximately 18-1/2 years for a non-union company and 18-1/2 years for a unionized company in the same industry.

    From the standpoint of relations between management, engineering and production, the non-union company was substantially better. Otherwise there was little difference between the two. (Of course, the non-union company had no strikes.)

    Now this is in the United States, so the situation in Europe and elsewhere might be different.
     
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  18. SPEEDCORE

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    Prodrive welcomes Merc to 12 years ago :p

     
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  19. Igor Ound

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    If setups can’t be changed after quali Merc should be allowed to use the DAS only up to Saturdays.

    i think that’s the fairest solution.
     
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  20. bmwracer

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    So the real question of this testing weekend , who is lying and who is showing their true potential . Who is golding back MB seems hell bent on demoralizing the opposition . Is anyone else showing their cards . Thoughts?
     
  21. Korr

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    Same as every year. The only pace that will matter is race pace.
     
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  22. DeSoto

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    Actually, it was way, way before Henry Ford. Unions of mining workers already got it in the 19th century and the king Phillip the second of Spain stablished the 40 hour workweek for employees of the Crown in the 16th century.

    Henry Ford was far from being a leftie, and incurred in some ilegal practices, like forcing his female workers to work with stockings, but not any stockings, just the ones manufactured by a company owned by him. The story of Fordlândia and other towns he founded in the jungle to get rubber is quite interesting, and shows the lights and shadows of the character.
     
  23. sp1der

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    Easy constant re shuffling of staff, crap leadership and poor technical decisions
     
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  24. Korr

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    I wonder when Racing Point will announce Xerox as a sponsor.
     
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  25. william

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    The same Henry Ford who was so anti-semite that he gave some funds to the Nazi Party before WWII.
    I wouldn't take him as a beacon of social progress !
     
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