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2016 RM Monaco auction

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  1. 275gtb6c

    275gtb6c Formula 3
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    This 14th and 15th May is the RM auction in Monaco. Anybody joining as there are some interesting cars and nice place anyway.....?

    The Ferrari's are amongst others a 340, 212, 275 GTS, some other open Ferrari's (550 and 575) with very low km's and so on.

    Perhaps we can post results in this thread.

    Ciao
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  2. richardson michael

    Aug 17, 2013
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    Yes,looking at the offerings,I think this one will be interesting,and perhaps create a baseline for 2016. ...May..Monaco..good time,good place. Lots of Fcars on offer,many over 1M of any currency that you have in your wallet,but you will need a bigger bag for Lot No.254..The 275 GTS (NART) est 19 - 23 M
     
  3. 275gtb6c

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  4. Timmmmmmmmmmy

    Timmmmmmmmmmy F1 Rookie

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    Legend Motors and Coys are also running auctions at Monaco although they are targeting different markets to R. Legend does have some interesting Lancia's but most of the auction will be automobilia and other ephemera. Coys are mainly selling what they term as evocation cars etc.

    Bonhams do have some fascinating stock on offer and it will be interesting to see what they achieve with the C-Type but the real make or break will be the NART Spider and I would bet a pint of decent beer that RM have done their usual excellent job of marketing it and it will sell, the question is for how much........

    Briefly on Bonhams they are also selling the Aston DB3S for big $$$ at the Works sale and have already sold a 10 million $ Bugatti. All up thats a lot of big ticket lots to move and will they also be able to get some decent consignments for next months Goodwood sale? Too many auctions always means spreading the quality a little thin.
     
  5. BIRA

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    Are you coming to Monaco?
    P
     
  6. 275gtb6c

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    No but will be next week in Brescia. So if you want pasta again, fryday and saturday we are in our house.....

    Ciao
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  7. richardson michael

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    Sorry Oscar,can not resist this,but would prefer pasta on Saturday,rather than fried on Friday! Many apologies,I am sure you speak better English than I do Italian.
     
  8. BIRA

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    Ok see you in Brescia either Wednesday or Thursday,,,pasta will have to be Friday as Saturday we are from Rome to Parma so not exactly around your place. Or Did you look at the map of the MM this year, to see what is the closest point??
    Cheers
    P
     
  9. Simon1965

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    It's actually quite sad to see how little some of the modern Ferraris being offered have been driven

    The 575 superamerica 221 km since new
    The 575 F1 590 km since new
    The 550 barcchetta 743 km since new.

    Now I get that we are all different, but I can't help feeling that these cars were meant to be driven. I've had my bog standard 550 manual for more than10 years and I've put 30,000 km on it
     
  10. BIRA

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    Jun 15, 2007
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    Well just remember what happened post 1990 crisis, when both Testa Rossa and F 40 with delivery miles came back to market. Some people bought those cars as "investment" and did not want to drive them, hoping value will increase. While possibly true for few cars, like manual whatever, at some point people realize they will continue to lose value and are selling them creating a glut of similar cars on market. Those need to be absorbed before the market bounces back, hence the perception that the classic car market, if fact reality, is going down. True for this segment, less true for the 315S / GTO/LM segment...
     
  11. Timmmmmmmmmmy

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    Bonhams sold the big Jaguar for 7 million Euro/ 8 million US which is a lot, especially compared to the Ecosse C-Type they sold 2 - 3 years ago........ Aston and Alfa didnt sell, Ferrari 288GTO was a smidge over 2 mil US$

    Unconfirmed results are
    Lot 101
    1982 FINNKART 85CC SF A1
    €10,000 - 20,000
    NZD 17,000 - 33,000
    US$ 11,000 - 23,000
    To be sold without reserve
    FLAG

    Lot 102
    1971 FIAT 500L JOLLY BEACH CAR
    Sold for €35,650 inc.premium,
    (NZD 59,506, US$ 40,455)
    FLAG

    Lot 103
    2013 FIAT 500 JOLLYCAR
    Sold for €40,250 inc.premium,
    (NZD 67,185, US$ 45,675)
    FLAG

    Lot 104
    1989 BMW Z1 ROADSTER
    Sold for €95,450 inc.premium,
    (NZD 159,325, US$ 108,316)
    FLAG

    Lot 105
    1959 MORETTI-BRANCA FORMULA JUNIOR MONOPOSTO
    Sold for €48,300 inc.premium,
    (NZD 80,622, US$ 54,810)
    FLAG
    LAT
    Lot 106
    1991-1992 BENETTON-FORD B191/191B FORMULA 1
    Sold for €1,058,000 inc.premium,
    (NZD 1,766,013, US$ 1,200,618)
    FLAG

    Lot 107
    1958 JAGUAR XK150 S 3.4-LITRE OTS ROADSTER
    Sold for €230,000 inc.premium,
    (NZD 383,916, US$ 261,004)
    FLAG

    Lot 108
    1987 PORSCHE 911 TURBO 3.3-LITRE CABRIOLET
    €150,000 - 200,000
    NZD 250,000 - 330,000
    US$ 170,000 - 230,000
    FLAG

    Lot 109*
    1968 SHELBY MUSTANG GT-500 KR CONVERTIBLE
    Sold for €138,000 inc.premium,
    (NZD 230,349, US$ 156,602)
    FLAG

    Lot 110
    1985 FERRARI 288 GTO COUPÉ
    Sold for €1,817,000 inc.premium,
    (NZD 3,032,936, US$ 2,061,931)
    FLAG

    Lot 111
    2006 PORSCHE CARRERA GT ROADSTER
    Sold for €713,000 inc.premium,
    (NZD 1,190,139, US$ 809,112)
    FLAG

    Lot 112
    1967 MASERATI GHIBLI COUPÉ
    €320,000 - 380,000
    NZD 530,000 - 630,000
    US$ 360,000 - 430,000
    FLAG
    Matt Howell 2015
    Lot 114
    1953 JAGUAR XK120C 'C-TYPE' SPORTS-RACING TWO-SEAT ROADSTER
    Sold for €7,245,000 inc.premium,
    (NZD 12,093,354, US$ 8,221,626)
    FLAG

    Lot 115
    1940 LANCIA APRILIA 2ND SERIES CABRIOLET
    Sold for €132,250 inc.premium,
    (NZD 220,751, US$ 150,077)
    FLAG

    Lot 116
    1968 DE TOMASO VALLELUNGA
    €320,000 - 360,000
    NZD 530,000 - 600,000
    US$ 360,000 - 410,000
    FLAG

    Lot 117
    1972 PORSCHE 911S 2.4-LITRE 'OELKLAPPE' TARGA
    Sold for €195,500 inc.premium,
    (NZD 326,328, US$ 221,853)
    FLAG

    Lot 118*
    1925 BUGATTI TYPE 35 GRAND PRIX TWO-SEATER
    Sold for €1,058,000 inc.premium,
    (NZD 1,766,013, US$ 1,200,618)
    FLAG

    Lot 119
    1929 ALFA ROMEO 6C 1750 SUPER SPORT SUPERCHARGED SPIDER
    €1.8 million - 2.4 million
    NZD 3 million - 4 million
    US$ 2 million - 2.7 million
    FLAG

    Lot 120
    1965 FERRARI 275 GTS
    €1.5 million - 2 million
    NZD 2.5 million - 3.3 million
    US$ 1.7 million - 2.3 million
    FLAG

    Lot 121
    2008 MERCEDES-BENZ SLR MCLAREN ROADSTER
    Sold for €304,750 inc.premium,
    (NZD 508,688, US$ 345,830)
    FLAG

    Lot 122
    2003 BMW Z8 ROADSTER
    Sold for €184,000 inc.premium,
    (NZD 307,132, US$ 208,803)
    FLAG

    Lot 123
    1976 PORSCHE 911 TURBO 3.0-LITRE COUPÉ
    €170,000 - 220,000
    NZD 280,000 - 370,000
    US$ 190,000 - 250,000
    FLAG

    Lot 124
    1964 FERRARI 250 GT LUSSO BERLINETTA
    €1.6 million - 1.9 million
    NZD 2.7 million - 3.2 million
    US$ 1.8 million - 2.2 million
    FLAG

    Lot 125
    1971 ALPINE A110 1600S COUPÉ
    Sold for €86,250 inc.premium,
    (NZD 143,968, US$ 97,876)
    FLAG

    Lot 126
    1973 FERRARI DINO 246GT COUPÉ
    Sold for €287,500 inc.premium,
    (NZD 479,895, US$ 326,255)
    FLAG

    Lot 127
    1963 FERRARI 330 AMERICA BERLINETTA
    Sold for €431,250 inc.premium,
    (NZD 719,842, US$ 489,382)
    FLAG

    Lot 128*
    1973 ISO GRIFO 5.8-LITRE SERIES II COUPÉ
    €300,000 - 350,000
    NZD 500,000 - 580,000
    US$ 340,000 - 400,000
    FLAG

    Lot 129*
    1956 TALBOT LAGO T14 LS SPÉCIAL COUPÉ
    €220,000 - 260,000
    NZD 370,000 - 430,000
    US$ 250,000 - 300,000
    FLAG

    Lot 130Ω
    2011 ASTON MARTIN ONE-77 COUPÉ
    €1.75 million - 2.25 million
    NZD 2.9 million - 3.8 million
    US$ 2 million - 2.6 million
    AMENDED
    FLAG

    Lot 131
    1957 AC ACE BRISTOL ROADSTER
    Sold for €287,500 inc.premium,
    (NZD 479,895, US$ 326,255)
    FLAG

    Lot 132Ω
    1994 FERRARI 512 TR COUPÉ
    €180,000 - 220,000
    NZD 300,000 - 370,000
    US$ 200,000 - 250,000
    FLAG

    Lot 133
    1973 PORSCHE 911 2.7 CARRERA RS TOURING COUPÉ
    €470,000 - 570,000
    NZD 780,000 - 950,000
    US$ 530,000 - 650,000
    FLAG

    Lot 134
    1980 LANCIA RALLY SE 037 PROTOTYPE GROUP B COMPETITION CAR
    €320,000 - 400,000
    NZD 530,000 - 670,000
    US$ 360,000 - 450,000
    FLAG

    Lot 135Ω
    1988 PORSCHE 959 KOMFORT
    Sold for €494,500 inc.premium,
    (NZD 825,419, US$ 561,158)
    FLAG

    Lot 136
    1967 JAGUAR E-TYPE SERIES 1 4.2-LITRE ROADSTER
    €230,000 - 280,000
    NZD 380,000 - 470,000
    US$ 260,000 - 320,000
    FLAG

    Lot 137
    1971 RANGE ROVER 4X4 ESTATE
    €50,000 - 70,000
    NZD 83,000 - 120,000
    US$ 57,000 - 79,000
    FLAG

    Lot 138
    1959 BENTLEY S2 CONTINENTAL FLYING SPUR SPORTS SALOON
    Sold for €184,000 inc.premium,
    (NZD 307,132, US$ 208,803)
    FLAG

    Lot 139
    1963 ALFA ROMEO GIULIA SPRINT SPECIALE COUPÉ
    Sold for €86,250 inc.premium,
    (NZD 143,968, US$ 97,876)
    FLAG

    Lot 140
    1982 FERRARI 512 BBI
    €290,000 - 340,000
    NZD 480,000 - 570,000
    US$ 330,000 - 390,000
    FLAG

    Lot 141
    1973 LAMBORGHINI ESPADA SERIES III
    Sold for €115,000 inc.premium,
    (NZD 191,958, US$ 130,502)
    FLAG

    Lot 142
    1987 FERRARI TESTAROSSA
    €110,000 - 130,000
    NZD 180,000 - 220,000
    US$ 120,000 - 150,000
     
  12. subirg

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    Bit of a car crash sale - Jag aside. Loads of no sales. Most that sold at low end of estimate.
     
  13. Timmmmmmmmmmy

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    15 million Euro's isnt too shabby especially considering they only offered 40 lots. IMO it all swung on selling the Jaguar. After all it sold for more than the other 39 lots low estimate total....
     
  14. amenasce

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    GTO for $2m seems like we are back in 2014. Was that a high miles car?
    959 was a bargain (in this market..)

    Lusso, Iso, BBI, TR,512 TR, no sale...Those are usually high demand.

    I heard 1.440.000 hammer for the 275 GTS.
     
  15. geno berns

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    What was wrong with the 959? Half off sale?
     
  16. Terra

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  17. Terra

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    Feb 16, 2004
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    Single ownership with 49,000 kilometers.
     
  18. ttforcefed

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    what did the Carrera gt go for in Monaco?
     
  19. Fennicus

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    Hi,

    Quoting Timmmmmmmmmy:

    Lot 111
    2006 PORSCHE CARRERA GT ROADSTER
    Sold for €713,000 inc.premium,
    (NZD 1,190,139, US$ 809,112)

    Cheers,

    Pekka T.
    Fin.
     
  20. ttforcefed

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  21. miurasv

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    Nov 19, 2008
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    High bid of 17 million Euros on the 275 NART Spyder.
     
  22. 275gtb6c

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    Nice to see that the 550 Barchetta went for 500+ and the 575 America for 430+...
    Must be the model, first in line and the manual gearbox....

    Ciao
    Oscar
     
  23. 275gtb6c

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    Ferrari 212 Inter cabriolet by Vignale sold for 1.050.000. Estimate was 1.250.000-1.500.000,-

    Must say that most cars did not meet their reserves or low estimates. Some however much higher.

    Ciao
    Oscar
     
  24. 275gtb6c

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    1972 Ferrari 365 GTS/4 Daytona Spider by Scaglietti dns
    High bid 2.000.000 eur

    Ciao
    Oscar
     
  25. Daytonafan

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    I know that auctioneers all have their own styles, but watching the feed seems quite obvious that Maarten Ten Holder of Sotheby's is not a car guy. Not sure he has mentioned the name of any of the cars he has offered at all.
     

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