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  1. F12lover

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    #1 F12lover, Jul 13, 2023
    Hard to believe it but I am selling my treasured 2016 F12. Original MSRP $373,958 and sold via Ferrari of Silicon Valley. Grigio Titanio over cuoio interior with chrome grill and 20" forged diamond cut wheels. Black upper leather dash and carbon fibre wheel with LEDs, full electric seats, front and rear cameras, shields, grey contrasting stitching on seats with horse stitched on headrest. AFS system and suspension lifter. True classic Ferrari GT spec. Always maintained at Ferrari dealers, all service history and invoices available. Extra fluid changes done between regular service intervals. Full paint protection film over entire car, including windshield.

    I am second owner purchased also from Ferrari of Silicon Valley in June 2017 with approximately 3,000 miles and imported to Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada by me.

    Car is nearly perfect in every respect... so what is the catch? Nothing except some Ferrari owners and prospective buyers will balk at the fact I now have slightly over 32,000 miles on it. I thoroughly enjoyed driving this car on long road trips all over the Western US. Seldom driven in the city or traffic. So I used it for its intended GT purpose of covering long distances at speed and yes it was epic.

    Pictures below. I will post more shortly and as requested. I am open to offers as it is difficult to know what a well cared for F12 with higher mileage is worth, but some one will get a phenomenal Ferrari that they can enjoy without worries of mileage or can park and let the mileage average down over the years. Mechanics tell me that the most reliable and trouble free Ferraris are the ones that are used frequently and that is the case with mine. Will assist with export and delivery back to US; it is a fairly simple process.

    Would appreciate guidance from forum members on USD value.



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  2. 3POINT8

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    #2 3POINT8, Jul 13, 2023
    great looking car! glad to see these things being driven!
     
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  3. flash32

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    #3 flash32, Jul 13, 2023
    Based recent sales and you mileage ( not counting import $$ or hassle) - I would very low 200's ( like 210-220)
     
  4. addict

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    #4 addict, Jul 13, 2023
    absolutely stunning spec, I love it!
     
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  5. Doug.

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    #5 Doug., Jul 13, 2023
    You sir, are a godsend for using this magnificent machine as intended. Spec is perfection for a Ferrari GT!

    For comparison, the highest mileage example I could find for sale was this 2014 F12 that had 35k miles. It sold for $220k USD, in May of 2022.

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2014-ferrari-f12-9/

    GLWS!
     
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  6. WillskiGT

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    #6 WillskiGT, Jul 14, 2023
    Couple of comps for you:

    A black 2014 with 23k miles (don't have spec details) sold wholesale for $192k last month.
    A black 2015 with 34k miles (no spec details) sold wholesale for $201.5k in March.

    I think ~$200-210k is probably fair.
     
  7. drivfour

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    #7 drivfour, Jul 14, 2023
    Your garage is ALSO fantastic!
     
  8. vjd3

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    #8 vjd3, Jul 14, 2023
    Beautiful car and my favorite color combo. These cars really thrive if you drive them a lot, I am about to turn 30k miles on my 2015 California T and it has been trouble free with no expense other than the annual maintenance once the free 7 years ran out.
     
  9. F12lover

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    #9 F12lover, Jul 16, 2023
    Thank you to all who have provided input. Will post more photos soon.


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  10. F12lover

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  11. F12lover

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    #11 F12lover, Jul 17, 2023
  12. George Vosburgh

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    #12 George Vosburgh, Jul 17, 2023
    Your car is beautiful! I'm doing the same thing with my 599, I'm the second owner and I've got 47K on the clock. My car feels like it's just breaking in. GLWS
     
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  13. Robb

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    #13 Robb, Jul 17, 2023
    Per rules, A selling price is required or the add will be deleted.

    I understand you are asking for assistance with value but make a decision and roll with it.

    Robb
     
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  14. F12lover

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    #14 F12lover, Jul 18, 2023
    Asking USD$225K.


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  15. F12lover

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    #15 F12lover, Jul 18, 2023
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  16. Sunshine1

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    #16 Sunshine1, Jul 18, 2023
    Beautiful. Good luck with the sale.
     
  17. F12lover

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    #17 F12lover, Jul 20, 2023
    For those who were asking me by PM, here is a screen shot from US Customs confirming one can re-import a US vehicle back to US without any duty. I have the paper work from Ferrari of Silicone Valley to me. I am also trying to get written confirmation from my customs broker.

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  18. F12lover

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    #18 F12lover, Jul 20, 2023
    And here is a photo of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard certification label required by NHTSA for import. With this there is no additional paperwork or manufacturer certification needed.
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  19. 2006m5

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    #19 2006m5, Jul 22, 2023
     
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  20. technom3

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    #20 technom3, Jul 24, 2023
    Yes. This car would be extremely easy to bring back into the US.
     
  21. pce01

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    #21 pce01, Jul 24, 2023
    I believe that rule only applies for the person who originally exported it to Canada. Note it refers to "your vehicle". I imported a USA spec 512TR from Ontario that had been exported to Toronto by a previous owner, and I had to pay duty when bringing it back to the USA. I used a Customs Broker.
     
  22. F12lover

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    #22 F12lover, Jul 27, 2023
    My broker confirmed it is tariff/duty free to return to US.


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  23. F12lover

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    #23 F12lover, Aug 9, 2023
    Well turns out my broker was ultimately incorrect. So here’s some good information for future buyers and sellers. A Ferrari coming back to the US after 3 years from initial export or for first ever from Canada is subject to a 2.5% tariff and some other small fees which cap out at about $575 for cars over $200K. Then there are some customs broker and bond fees. Lots of paperwork but overall process goes smoothly with help of a broker.

    I ended up covering the tariff by reducing my sales price as I learned this after agreeing on a sales price.


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  24. F12lover

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    #24 F12lover, Aug 9, 2023
    Car is sold. Wishing and hoping this F12 will be as enjoyable and reliable for the new owner as it was for me these past 6 years with many thousands of miles of thrills and memories. What a machine!


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