2015 FORMULA 1 PETRONAS MALAYSIA GRAND PRIX: RACE *** SPOILERS *** | Page 36 | FerrariChat

2015 FORMULA 1 PETRONAS MALAYSIA GRAND PRIX: RACE *** SPOILERS ***

Discussion in 'F1' started by Remy Zero, Mar 29, 2015.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

  1. tonyswfla

    tonyswfla Formula Junior
    Silver Subscribed

    Dec 2, 2007
    823
    Florida
    #876 tonyswfla, Apr 1, 2015
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
  2. furoni

    furoni F1 World Champ

    Jun 6, 2011
    13,611
    Vila Verde
    Full Name:
    Pedro Braga Soares
    NO WAY JOSÉ...YOU STINK!!!!!
     
  3. tonyswfla

    tonyswfla Formula Junior
    Silver Subscribed

    Dec 2, 2007
    823
    Florida
    #878 tonyswfla, Apr 1, 2015
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
  4. furoni

    furoni F1 World Champ

    Jun 6, 2011
    13,611
    Vila Verde
    Full Name:
    Pedro Braga Soares
    KEEP MOVING......
     
  5. Sig. Roma

    Sig. Roma Formula 3
    Owner Silver Subscribed

    Mar 11, 2007
    1,063
    Bella Italia
    Full Name:
    Dom T.
    Don't let the door hit you in the axx !!!
     
  6. Igor Ound

    Igor Ound F1 Veteran

    Sep 30, 2012
    8,102
    The Horn
    Full Name:
    Igor Ound
    Poor Nando, he's done his best at Ferrari and wasted his best years. I still like him
     
  7. nsxrebel

    nsxrebel Formula 3

    Jan 8, 2004
    1,904
  8. ARTNNYC

    ARTNNYC F1 Rookie
    Owner

    Jul 8, 2005
    3,767
    NYC, FL
    Full Name:
    Jerome
    can someone here explain to me, a pretty insightful motorsport enthusiast/participant myself, how Toro Rosso annihilated its parent team Red Bull so badly?
     
  9. tervuren

    tervuren Formula 3

    Apr 30, 2006
    2,469
    Those crew members seem to be positively smirking at him!
     
  10. scudF1

    scudF1 F1 Rookie
    Silver Subscribed

    Jan 21, 2012
    2,866
    Long Island, NY
    Full Name:
    Billy
    He is not even looking at them...
     
  11. trumpet77

    trumpet77 Formula 3

    Jun 13, 2011
    2,181
    Great Neck, NY
    Full Name:
    Robert Nixon
    yes, can now use 5 engines this year.
     
  12. NJB13

    NJB13 Formula 3

    Jan 5, 2013
    1,317
    Pampanga,Philippines
    Full Name:
    Norm
    I think it has been agreed by the teams but not ratified by the FiA. Also, the FiA may impose conditions on the 5th engine like it can only be used for practice.
     
  13. toil

    toil F1 Rookie
    BANNED

    Apr 23, 2014
    3,534
    Aren't torro Rosso ferrari powered? And Renault suck big time
     
  14. PSk

    PSk F1 World Champ

    Nov 20, 2002
    17,673
    Tauranga, NZ
    Full Name:
    Pete
    Australian GP mate, not this one obviously. And I've already done the maths. This year in P3 Vettel was 0.696 seconds slower than Toil, while last year Alonso in P3 was only 0.507 seconds slower than Toil.

    So at THAT GP the Ferraris performance compared to Mercedes went backwards if we compare Vettel against Alonso. Kimi though did go 0.12 faster ...

    So maybe Vettel is that little bit slower than Alonso? ... I don't know, but we cannot say at the Aussie GP Ferrari was closer to Mercedes IMO.

    But yes Gary's numbers are on the high side
    Pete
     
  15. PSk

    PSk F1 World Champ

    Nov 20, 2002
    17,673
    Tauranga, NZ
    Full Name:
    Pete
    Not correct. They used to be Ferrari powered but now Renault powered.
    Pete
     
  16. classic308

    classic308 F1 Veteran

    Jan 9, 2004
    6,794
    Westchester, NY
    Full Name:
    Paul
    And if they were Ferrari powered the gap would be even larger....
     
  17. singletrack

    singletrack F1 Veteran

    Mar 16, 2011
    5,769
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Ehhhh. Hard to say after two races. Plus that disregards chassis and setup, which is at least 50% of the game.
     
  18. subirg

    subirg F1 Rookie

    Dec 19, 2003
    4,195
    Cheshire
    Not only that - they did it with two complete rookie drivers, one of whom is not even old enough to get a drivers license in many countries. Oh, how this makes me laugh! More than the McLaren Honda debacle...!
     
  19. F2003-GA

    F2003-GA F1 World Champ
    Rossa Subscribed

    Nov 2, 2003
    13,078
    Sunbelt
    Full Name:
    Bro
    With Honda and Renault struggling IMO the FIA will play nice
     
  20. NJB13

    NJB13 Formula 3

    Jan 5, 2013
    1,317
    Pampanga,Philippines
    Full Name:
    Norm
    I keep hoping the FiA will do something smart, despite the mess they put F1 in.

    With Ferrari proving that if teams are actually allowed to improve their PU's gaps can be made up. It makes me wonder how much competition we might have had in 2014 if the legislated ban on "catching up" didn't exist.

    If they were smart, they'd immediately suspend all the regs that prevent any PU changes. Let it be open slather for 12 months for all the teams - something akin to when the V8 came in. In 12 months re-instate the current status quo.
     
  21. 4rePhill

    4rePhill F1 Veteran

    Oct 18, 2009
    8,179
    Worcester, England
    Full Name:
    Phill J
    Because they made a better chassis with better aero, it's as simple as that!
     
  22. GordonC

    GordonC F1 Rookie
    Owner Rossa Subscribed

    Aug 28, 2005
    4,120
    Calgary, AB, Canada
    Full Name:
    Gordon
    The problem will remain the same as it happened over the winter - Mercedes will be allowed unlimited improvements just as would Honda, Renault, and Ferrari - so Mercedes would likely maintain their gap if not increase it (let's acknowledge that they're not slouches when it comes to engines, and it's unlikely that they've run out of ideas and would stay static).

    The winter improvements allowed via the token system is as viable an opportunity for Renault and Ferrari to catch up as would be an unlimited development period - it will still come down to Renault and Ferrari doing a better job with their tokens, or with unlimited development, than Mercedes can do.
     
  23. PSk

    PSk F1 World Champ

    Nov 20, 2002
    17,673
    Tauranga, NZ
    Full Name:
    Pete
    So I'm a little confused with your post.

    Ferrari have the same tokens as everybody else and yet they have made improvements, so why do we need to change the regs? And also if the regs prevent PU changes, how did Ferrari improve their PU?

    The fact is there is no ban on catching up, Renault are just struggling with this concept.
    Pete
     
  24. 2003Enzo

    2003Enzo Formula Junior

    Dec 5, 2003
    358
    I think the lack of pace and reliability issues at Red Bull are the direct result of being the factory team.

    It seems like the upgrades being installed on the RB11 are hurting instead of helping, and Toro Rosso has these older but faster/more reliable variants of these parts and engine maps.
     
  25. Tokyo Drftr

    Tokyo Drftr Formula 3

    Jan 18, 2009
    2,461
    UA-USA-JP
    Full Name:
    Ро&#1081

    Can someone explain the token system?


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     

Share This Page