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1995 Ferrari F355 Berlinetta : The Last Great Analog Ferrari

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  1. BeefCake4000

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  2. Ob917

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    #2 Ob917, Apr 18, 2025
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    Such a rad 355. And cool vid. Thanks for posting. Hope it goes to somebody who really appreciates it.
     
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    There's a rumor that this exact car might just be for sale..... ;)

    .....possibly even on this site. :D
     
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    The filming for this was six hours. I'm glad to see it was worth the effort :)
     
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    Point of order .

    It’s not analogue. It’s got fly by wire throttle , electronic dampers , Bosch 5.2 - myriad of sensors + electrotwackery to control the engine . 95 % have power steering , some sort of Nannie re traction control ? .

    The last true analogue Ferrari was the 348 ….signed off by Enzo . 348 have a old fashioned throttle cable , none adjustable dampers infact apart from ABS nothing , nada , zilch driver aids or electrotwackery to assist . Also a true dog leg 1 st gear box .
     
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    355 does not have fly by wire throttle or traction control. It has abs and electronic shock damping, that's it.
     
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    This video implies the F355 did not have power steering when it does.
     
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    Manual steering was an option on early cars but was dropped because nobody ordered it.
     
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    It does not have throttle-by-wire
    20% of F355s have the Bosch 2.7 ECU (along with 100% of Challenge cars)
    It has electrical shocks not electronic shocks (a motor turns 200º-odd to change valving)
    Non-Power Steering was a seldom chosen option.
    Traction control was your right foot.
     
  10. crinoid

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    The guy says Luca ‘Montezello.’

    The expensive services have been “rectified” according this guy. lol

    He also ignores the F355 challenge car saying they never made a Challenge Stradale.
     
  11. Mitch Alsup

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    Note to people who make Videos--copy this persons video style::

    a) no stupid music in the background/foreground
    b) interlace driving and talking
    c) process the color tonality until it looks on screen like it looks to your eyes
    d) car meticulously clean
    e) clear vocalizations
     
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  12. crinoid

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    I know. My point is 99.9% F355’s have power steering and the narrator makes it sound like no F355 had power steering.
     
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    You sound like a difficult person to please.
     
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    355 is just about as analog as it gets
     
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    Ferrari didn't make a F355 Challenge Stradale.
    F355 Challenge - Yes, obviously. A track car for a one-make race series.
    360 Challenge Stradale - Yes. It is a track-focused version of the street car, utilizing some features of the 360 Challenge race cars.
    F355 Challenge Stradale - Obviously, no.

    You should really know this already.
     
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    Ok guys my bad re analogue detail . 355 is great car , but over described as the “last “analogue F car . I think that rosette goes to the 348 :

    355 was a transition car 5 valve head ( dropped by 2005 ) adjustable dampers . F1 flappy paddle box - power steering in a mid engined etc etc :
     
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    That power steering was old-school hydraulic, not electric, as already used for decades prior. Still analogue.
    Paddle-shift was an option offered later in its production, and not integral to the essence of the car. Adding something driven by a computer doesn't make the car "not analogue", or upgrading the stereo or ignition would make a Daytona "not analogue" just as much.
    Adjustable dampers were servo motors that rotated the valving. Nothing was read by a sensor to be calculated and corrected, or optimized. To say so, you would have to say that the electric window of the 50s and 60s were "digital" as well.
     
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    You mean apart from the two accelerometers and (anti/dive) brake pressure switch in the Bilstein suspension system wiring?
     
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    Not aware of that feature, so I could be wrong in that. Do they factor-in degree of acceleration, and adjust something from there? Still sounds as "non-analogue" as a Bosche K-Jetronic fuel metering flap.
    Mine is running Motons.
     
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    I dont have a 355, 348 here so i could be wrong. But i dont think your statement is correct. The struts in a 355 while very good, are not that smart. Only firm and soft, im happy to be corrected if wrong on that.
     
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    The F355 WSM has a brief description of the sensors in the Suspension chapter...

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    The system also uses a vehicle speed input. No, it doesn't sound sophisticated, but it's the start of the vehicle "nanny" systems.

    Maybe someone can explain to me the difference between forecarriage lowering and brake pitch swinging? :p
     
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    Having redrawn this diagram and used it on occasion...

    https://www.dropbox.com/t/jo22D8nAOSA9qvYl

    ... I'm quite familiar with this system.

    There was also an interesting fault on FChat in which the instruments on one F355 were completely inoperable. It was being caused by short circuit in the vertical accelerometer (which was blowing the instrument fuse).

    The brake pressure switch, when faulty, is also known to cause a knocking sound when the brakes are applied.
     
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    Great video! If it's not analog it certainly feels like it. Guess I could disconnect the power steering and shock ecu to be on par with the 348
     
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    I don’t think you’re understanding me. They made the 348/F355 challenge car package to be installed by the dealer onto the street legal car. Not a ‘Challenge Stradale’ however in spirit maybe more CS than the actual CS. The CS was made street legal from a track car rather than a kit installed on the street legal cars like the 348 and F355 challenge cars. You should know this already.
     

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