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  1. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Drive thru it often t have lunch in Galveston....
     
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  2. ralfabco

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    #27 ralfabco, Oct 30, 2020
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    Way more than 125K in work.

    My 'guess' the best option is finding a buyer from a third world country with very hi vehicle importation taxes where it can be imported as a non-running project car. The idea is the custom's authorities may apply a small fee to import an old non-running car with cosmetic issues.

    In some countries the importation tax is more than the price of the new car.

    The other perfect GT4 listed from Germany will be less expensive in the long run.
     
  3. davemqv

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    Sounds like Big Tex might be able to help you locally which is great, but just in case may I offer another suggestion? Send it out of State to someone who will take the project on. The car being in the condition it's in, you don't need covered transport, so you could probably get it out to southern CA for well under $1000 (I had a Merc shipped from Malibu to NYC on an open trailer for $1000 even). In Southern CA there are a ton of very well qualified Ferrari shops who have a ton of experience with GT/4's, as well as paint and upholstery shops. Won't be cheap but at least you'd know an expert was working on the car. If you go that route ask for recommendations here and you'll have many leads to follow.

    Best of luck....
     
  4. absostone

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    First just get it running. Like Tex said the new parts are there. Rebuilding the calipers is cheap and easy. Unless you send them to PMB for restoration. Then do other things as you wish.
     
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  5. steved033

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    I agree. listening to it, the "mechanic" didn't set the 5-8 distributor on the 5-8 TDC mark.

    GT4 registry says the original color was Anthracite.

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  6. Michael Keathley

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    That’s amazing to see how it has travelled the country! Also I would have never guessed it to be black.

    Yes my mom and dad bought it from Mike Cannillo. The car was beautiful and near perfect when they got it from him. The Texas heat did it no favors. It’s why I want to get it either fixed or sold before the summer. Why does the registry not show that my parents bought it from him? And can I get it updated as to -me- being the current owner? The car has 86k miles on the clock, my dad sure didn’t drive it much. I guess he basically just let it rot in the Texas heat... ugh.


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  7. Michael Keathley

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    When we get it from Mike Cannillo... the story goes like this... the car was parked in Manhattan which is why the owner wanted it sold. He was tired of stressing over a Ferrari parked on the side of the road in the middle of Manhattan.


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  8. steved033

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  9. steved033

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    I think you as the current caretaker have to drop the registry a message yourself.

    sjd
     
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  10. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    When we pull the interior we will find the overspray of the OEM paint, in the doors and the floor pan under the carpets.

    A quick place to find it is to scratch thru the flat black inside the fuel door..the OEM paint went down first and then the black was sprayed after.....
     
  11. bjwhite

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    Honestly? It would be fun to just get the car spot on mechanically, and drive it as-is cosmetically. I would have a bit of fun with that for sure.....sort of a GT4 Ratarossa....
     
  12. Michael Keathley

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    THIS! This has been my goal! I do plan to paint it though but yes! I always told my dad that I was gonna drive this car one way or another.


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  13. BigTex

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    I just looked at the ad on the German car.

    Here's the deal, IMO.

    These cars have always been rare, just not always valued.
    It was also much harder "in the day" to find someone that knew how the care for them.
    (Still is, as your experience shows...)

    So In Europe they were "valued" and in this country they were not.
    The 'glass 308GTB the froze in Nevada at the Bunny Ranch.
    It just brings a tear to your eye, but there's people that just want "today's thing"..

    These cars have CONSTANT niggles...stuff breaking, materials aging and tearing apart.
    I never realized how much fabric the GT4 used inside.
    Very similar to the Dino 246...

    Anyway, like any complicated situation, this car boils down to First we do this and then so forth.
    There are Hot Rod fabricators that just roll up their sleeves and some sheet metal and the rust is gone!!
    It's not as hard as some make it.

    But it is a slow process, and it's fueled by money.
    Or time, if you are doing things at home.

    I am pretty limited as to what I know "I can do" so I let the painters paint, the trim guys trim, and the engine guys tune.
    There....uncomplicated!!!

    :D :D :D
     
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  14. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    That lighter grey would look classy on the GT4.

    As we know now, at the time not ALL Ferraris were red.
     
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  15. Michael Keathley

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    I assure you... I’ll take very good care of the car if we can get it running. And like you... I’m a big believer in letting the pros do what they do best. Y’all want your parking lot striped, y’all call me. Y’all want your car fixed, y’all call a mechanic.

    ;)


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  16. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Well I have a "slot" at this local place to look into my cooling system, but of you want to call them or come down to chat you can play on thru....I'm not really keeping the Ferrari at the top of my projects...

    Getting the Ducatis all together was first.

    And some ass just kinked a dent in my truck tailgate.
    It's hard to have nice things......
     
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  17. Michael Keathley

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    Yes please!!! I want to drive this car!

    I’m a rider through and through. I have a ZX10r. Used to have a Monster. Loved that bike.


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  18. absostone

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    Damn I want to hang out with you guys!
     
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  19. 350HPMondial

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    And,, the seats are the same as the earily,,, Alfa Romeo GTV6
     
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  20. 2cam

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    For sure! I've been in the air-cooled 911 world for quite a few years and I'm just astounded by what those guys do. It's very much a DIY community. This is a thread on a car that one of the guys in my neighborhood did over the last several years -

    http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/840815-project-minne-saga-72-a.html

    Interesting. I wasn't aware of that!

    2cam
     
  21. 19633500GT

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    Do you mean by size? The bolsters and front portion is much thinner in the GT4 (and the headrests etc. are not remotely close).

    Or literally do you meant the frame and etc.? Never seen or knew this.
     
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  22. 350HPMondial

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    seem,, the same.
    ,,
    later GTV6,, use Recaro seats.
    good luck.

    Eduardo
     
  23. Vonbarron

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    Sent you a PM
     
  24. Rick Weston

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    Sad, that thing is hard to look at. It’s a shame it wasn’t cared for. I hope you find a buyer willing to take it on, someone with passion and money. Good luck!
     
  25. ATSAaron

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    I've sent you a couple PM's.

    Aaron
     

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