Any one have a photo for the correct knock off pattern on a 1971 365? Some have horse and some dont? Wondering what's right. Dave
Only the euro cars got the KO wheels. Looking for a euro version style? CH Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Now I have cromo on the car. So are the horse Knock off correct? I would expect the borrani hand would be on wires only?
More confusion.... -borrani wire wheels = borrani hand knockoff? -cromodoras = horse, but which horse? Engraved as above or "raised" horse? Ed
No Daytona expert - but here goes: The Borrani KOs should only be used with the Borrani wire wheels. They may not properly interfere (grab) with the alloy wheels. These are the so called 'curved ear' KOs. These type of KOs are generally available new from Borrani. The alloy wheels should be used only with the straight-ear KOs. I beleive new ones are not available. These should have the raised forse in relief, not the etched one.
The hand was the company logo of Carlo Borrani, and generally speaking, early cars had KOs with the hand – and mostly concave – while later had the horse. But this only applies in the broadest sense, because in typical Italian fashion, there was no discernable consistency and anything and everything applied. Also, there were a good many variations to the KOs, with some differences fairly subtle. For the USA market mag wheel style the horse is engraved and there is a directional (pointing clockwise) arrow under the horse.
So for my 1971 with cromodora's concourse correct would be? Raised or flat? Ones shown above are flat, correct? Or are these correct Image Unavailable, Please Login
Incorrect Very very few early daytona were delivered with straight earded style 42 spinners. 12301 preproduction prototype came with curved, engraved not embossed cavallino spinners installed at the 1969 New York Auto show. Check fchat thread in vintage section "12301" , Road and Track file photos.
Check with Wayne Obry over at daytonaregistry.com (he is from Wisconsin) to confirm the wheel choice. Your Daytona must me a euro version as all USA market cars sold new had no knock off spinner due to government regulations. Wayne will tell you what is correct for judging for the market your car was built for when new. Cromodora wheel had the size marked on it as shown below. CH Image Unavailable, Please Login
Here is an example of the factory cap for the late North America market Daytona delivery. Again no KO wheel was supplied for this market. That is not to say that someone didn't have the dealer change parts later though including wheel size. As suggested ask Wayne for his advice if you are getting the car judged and you might also ask if 9 inch rear wheels are acceptable to? CH Image Unavailable, Please Login
OK, so forgive me if I'm highjacking this thread but I'm curious. My 330gts came to me with the curved ear knock-offs with the Route Borrani hand on them. I replaced them with the curved ear prancing horse knock-offs. I'm wondering this, except for the very early cars, how would someone have put the Route Borrani hand knock-offs on the car when the prancing horse knock-offs were most probably available. Was that a common practice in the late 60s? Or, were the prancing horse logo knock-offs just not available at some time and the PO put what they had available? Thanks for clearing this on up. Morris
Morris, I think as a general rule.... -borrani wire wheels came with borrani hand k.o. - cromos or campys came with the horse k.o. Also, when someone swapped out their wheels, they probably did not buy corresponding knockoff. Therefore, mismatched wheels/knockoffs. Ed
Something to remember when your spare is an alloy, and the wheels under the car are Borrani. The spare should have the wheel-specific spinner with it for it to be used safely.
