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10 ft garage enough for a lift?

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  1. Doug_S

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    Four months into F car ownership and I am thinking of another, without trading. I saw some posts about 4 post lifts making one space do double duty.

    My garage cealing is 10 ft. Can I fit a lift/2 cars? What do you do about the garage door motor/tracks/etc (which are about 6 ft up in mygarage)?
     
  2. Davesvt2000

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    Here is a link to the company I bought mine from, and if you click on a specific model, you can get the specs to give you an idea..

    http://www.tecequip.com/storage_parking_lifts.htm

    Note: height was not an issue for me, as mine went into a building with 14 foot ceilings..
     
  3. Tipo815

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    Your ceiling height is good (as long as you're not parking a SUV under the Ferrari). I just went through this. Your garage door tracks will be the issue but not a big deal. Garage door repair company will have to add vertical tracks so the door snugs up higher (closer to the ceiling).
     
  4. Chaos

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    theres a recent thread in the lambo section ("waiting for the bull" iirc) where lifts are discussed and one of the guys has a lift in an 9 an a half foot garage so you should be fine
     
  5. leead1

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    There was a post on F chat showing pictures of a gentleman with a lift in his 10 ft ceiling. He said he was happy with the result.

    I did the measurements for my 10 foot garage ceiling and I could do it with my cars with 3 inches to spare. As you note in your post i would had to raise my automatic door tracks up about 11 inches and relocate towards the rear the motor and reciever. An automatic garage door installer can do this for you. The type of doors can be changed although i did not look into it.

    One of my freinds who had an extra garage that I can rent added a 4 post lift. i did it for about a year and was not happy with the lift arrangement. The lift felt unstable to me and very tight for some of the cars to fit on without alot of care. I left that arrangment after a year. i suspect if he had bolted the lift down, bought a better unit, plus ordered a wider four post arrangement it would have been better. I missed the full use of the garage sides. I store motorcycles in those areas.

    In the end I decided to rent outside storage. This has worked out for me but honestly I miss being able to go sit on the garage step with coffee and look at the cars. One of lifes unsong pleasures!


    Yes can be done, but careful measurments are required. The height of the cars and the lift diminsons are important. Too tight for me.

    Good luck whatever you decide to do.

    Lee
     
  6. 483hp

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    Consider the height of both cars, the thickness of the ramp, some clearance for the lower car above the ramp (min. 3 or 4"), and some space above the top car including clearance for light fixtures, garage door, etc.

    Then look at the fixed stop locations for the deck locking positions that are provided by the manufacturer and recalculate.

    You will find that a 10' ceiling is cutting it extremely close in many cases. If you're parking two Ferrari's, no problem.
     
  7. xs10shl

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    Depending on your home, you can also have your garage door roll to the side, or swing outward like a door. Worst case, you can install a metal roll-up door, which is extremely compact.
     
  8. JohnnyS

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    My lift fits in my garage with a 9ft ceiling. I can put my 328 on the lift and a Grand Am under it without difficulty. While tight, it works for me. I can only say a 10 ft ceiling should be okay depending on what will be on the lift and under it.

    I am currently looking a modifying the garage ceiling to raise it about 18 inches, which will be an improvement in gaining some space. Also need to raise the garage door track by about 18 inches.
     
  9. 483hp

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    If you need to find a few more inches of headroom, consider high lift rails and replace your standard chain drive door opener with a jackshaft door opener (side mounted).
     
  10. speedemon

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    their are several threads that detail the products, finishes, heights, etc. on this topic thoroughly.
     
  11. BT

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    You can replace the standard opener with one that operates the bar over the door instead of pulling on the door itself. They mount on the wall over the center of the door. Ask your local door installer about it and they should know the brand name. I think it is Wayne Dalton.
    BT
     
  12. Owens84QV

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    Height is one issue. The other is the thickness of the concrete floor. Are there minimums for concrete thickness that need to be considered?
     
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  15. BT

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    No worries with the concrete. The minimum thickness for typical residential construction is 4". Minimum compressive strength is 2500 psi. A 6000 pound vehicle sitting on a 2000 pound lift will only have 2000 pounds of pressure at each post. One square inch of concrete is more than sufficient for supporting this load. If you have a post tensioned or floating slab you might have some underlying soil bearing issues, but highly unlikely. The typical minimum soil bearing is around 1500 psf, and the load gets spread out over an increased footprint through load transfer in the slab. Surprisingly, garages are some of the lightest design loads in a building. the typical office building has a floor load rating of 50-120 pounds per square foot. Parking garages are designed for 25 pounds per square foot. I would not worry about it.
    :)
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  17. rwk360

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    This topic has been discussed on numerous other threads. I would agree w/ others that 10 ft should be okay, but should be considered the bare minmum ceiling height. R/e concrete thickness, most large, reputable lift manufacturers mandate min psi (usually 3000 lb) and min distance from any cracks, etc. I had a four post in a previous home that I bolted to the slab (w/ no idea of psi or thickness) and had no probs. Do not bolt over cracks however. A word to the wise, unless you're capable of moving and handling/ installing metal parts in the 400-600lb range, and are fluent in the setup of hydraulic systems, you would do well to have it professionally installed. The lift I used to have was by Eagle, which is an adequate, consumer-level brand; my current lift is by Rotary, 1000% better made, though somewhat more $. There are many other considerations. PM me if interested.
     

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