More likely the engine seized from loss of coolant and overheating or loss of oil pressure? The kind of idiot who would continue to drive a car with gauges showing dire problems would be the kind who would let it sit unprotected for decades. Would it be easier to just make an entire new car and just transfer the chassis number plate and few usuable parts that can be removed from that rusty hulk?
As an incidental note, Freeman, a British bike builder once built me a frame using both Reynolds (UK) and Columbus lightweight tubing. He preferred Columbus stays, which were tapered and not pinched as Reynolds was. Both are double-butted. Smaller ID at the ends where stress is greatest. Andres
Dennis McCann had the large oval tubing made up and it worked out well. I know where the last meter or so of it is, Dennison International used some in a recent restoration. As Dinos approach the 275 pace of valuations there will be more that get restored to a higher level Image Unavailable, Please Login
Graham, I'm not quite sure I understand your post, but is this not the case withe many "blue chip" cars that have been restored? I doubt this ever effected prices in any way. Especially if you see some of the results on certain V12 cars that have passed through certain auction houses in the last few years.
This has always been the case with racing cars which have been heavily crashed, "rolled up into a ball", written off, etc and have basically been completely reconstructed. Only the chassis number plate is what left the factory but it is still considered to be a genuine car. Emotionally I think I wouldn't want a car that was 90% reconstructed but that's just me.
While original is better, in the end owning say the car that won Le Mans (overall) in 1965 is way cooler ... even if it has had the most extensive restoration. In fact I know of a serious collector that swapped his fully restored 60's TR for a wrecked TR that had a better competition history. Note I might have some details of this story wrong. My point is they are all just metal and rubber, it is their history that makes them unique. Pete
I am really looking forward to cheering on the new owner and watching the process if it's done with passion by the right people with the right tools and the right parts. If it was done by man once, it can be done again! Freeman
Yes, yes and yes. Trafiltubi can make to order but the min. quantity makes it cost prohibitive. Seems you have to know someone in Italy...
I find it amazing that the auction company, nor any of the forum posters, tippey-toe around who the motorcycle racer was? You can't libel someone that has passed, so why not say his name? I wonder if it was Barry Sheene? Anyway, it seems in the States if a car was formerly celebrity owned, they'd be shouting that from the rooftops. Also I am curious to know did a barn finder buy it for a song and take it to auction or was it the motorcycle racers's relatives that brought it to auction? Finally if it was an aluminum bodied 206GT parked in a garage in UK for same amount of time, would its underside be as rusted as the Andrea Dorea as well? I remember buying a Bizzarrini parked outside in Ohio and though the alloy body didn't look too bad, underneath the only color was RUST
Unreal. That thing is worth 40k us dollars IMO. not a cent more. Cars: We All Fall in Love With Our Models: Ferrari 246 Dino Market: 2012 Review Interesting article showing figures. Doesn't even account for the US cars, so you can basically take that number, and add about 25 cars to it at least. 65-70 DIFFERENT cars available for sale per year. Yeah, what a rare car the Dino is, LOL. Also shows the amount of vehicles offered for sale per year, which to me is the the most interesting and useful tool. These cars have not become more obscure, which is the main environment for a valid price increase (in conjunction with a strong economy). There are still PLENTY of these cars out there. But hey if a bunch of hedge funds and brokers decide to buy them up, drive up the price, and take all of the suckers who are willing to shell out 500k, then it is what it is. Fact is, that car is realistically worth somewhere between 180-240k. Lots of people lighting a quarter mil on fire this year
I saw the car last week, even the wishbones are rusted through . My engine builder has been tasked with the engine rebuild. I believe body panels are being made by the panel beater I used then it's going out of the uk to be completed. Mine was bad when I got it. This one is another level although it is very original
My car was very very bad, probably worse than most, except that it was not terminal. Personally, after looking at the photos, I think there is very little that does not have to be re fabricated, including a new chassis. This car is very original...rust, and yes, if the bankroll is big enough, any car can be totally reconstructed. Marcel quite succinctly has put it, that "cars have been remade around a tach needle". Imagine this, if the wishbones are rusted through, the chassis has to be worse. On the positive side, the fibreglass ought to be good The heads, I dread the thought, the remainder of the motor and the transmission frozen solid. The only winner here, was the seller. This poor Dino, is a dog, and a dead one at that. Regards, Alberto
The car was sold at auction for £132,250 (£115k exc premium) in May. 1973 Ferrari 246GT Dino 'Barn Find' - Silverstone Auctions Thank you for referencing the work on my blog. Cars: We All Fall in Love With Our Models
How do you just not care enough to even throw a tarp over the poor thing? Amazing. Guess with what it sold for, kinda doesn't matter...
Hi, now 3 years after this one surfaced,just wondering if any progress was made on the restoration ? Where did it go to in the end? With UK prices now pushing £500K maybe not so bad a deal after all?
I was hoping to see her fully restored in this thread, too. Especially since she was more like a pool find than a barn find.
