05 360 Alarm Wiring?

I used to install alarms in a previous life. I never done a Ferrari, as my local isn't a high end car area. I checked all my sources and couldn't track down a wiring diagram for that vehicle. I no longer have access to Directed Electronics "Directechs" but I think Circuit City or Best Buy deals with them. Just go in and talk to one of the guys in the install bay and they should print it out for you it should list that car (hopefully). If you're going to do this yourself, don't use a regular test light. Use a DVM only. Finding a bypass might prove tough, Fortin nor BypassKit (they manufacture them for most everyone) lists any Ferrari. If I was to do that car I would track down the factory alarm brain and test wires there, should be able to pickup most connections (parking lights, horn, door triggers, hood, truck, ignition, locks) there. If you can't find a bypass for the key for remote start, it can still be done (if it is a transponder based key) with a relay and a length of bell wire, but the customer will lose a key. Doing a remote start on a manual transmission car is risky enough even with the various kits available, but a Ferrari I wouldn't even think about it.

 

The immobilizer is built into the ECU and that is a mated pair with the alarm ECU. You can't access it.

 

And is there a common sense explanation that would lead one to even want to think of doing this?

Get a Hyundai!

Ferrari-Circuit City? Don't think so.

 

So true. Then again, anyone who knows so little about the car AND takes to to Circuit City for "customization" deserves the bill he gets to make it run again.

 

And at that point it maybe could be considered "shortcircuit city".

 

It can be done.. I looked at buying a 360 in Miami. It had an aftermarket alarm. It did not have a factory remote, I repeat it did not have a factory remote!!! The alarm sounded like a Viper alarm. It was not the Ferrari "beep-beep". After I passed she trade it to Prestige in Miami. I would love to find the guy that installed that. I doubt he worked at circuit city.

 

We need to find out how to do this!

 

Yes we do!!

 

Umm, don't they all come with alarms and immobilizers from the factory?

 

With the obnoxious and condescending comments you just made you may have trouble getting help from anyone here.

And BTW most of us do work on our own cars.

 

Greg- +1. No desire to know.

Taz
Terry Phillips

 

The 360 for sure has an alarm ecu that is tied to the main 2 ecus. The passenger one iirc is linked to the alarm ecu by a hard code once written by the alarm ecu. I want to know if you totally removed the alarm ecu if you could swap the main ecus left/right and then have a fresh ready to be burned main ecu looking for an alarm code that does not exist. I then want to know if because a code does not exist if the car will start as if there was no alarm period. If that worked then we could put in our own more reliable electronics at a fraction of the cost. Alternatively we need to open up a 360 main ecu to see what chips are in there than can be read by a prom reader or something and perform an exorcisim.

 

If I'm not mistaken, there was no '05 360 Modena. I think there were a few '05 360 spiders but not a Modena. I may be wrong though.

 

I don't think the people that did her car went to that extreme. I'm guessing that the ecu only needs to see a small amount of voltage to keep the alarm off. Like when I get gas I turn the car off but leave the key on so I dont have to reset the alarm again to start. Maybe they found where the power needs to stay on(such as wire #43 on the left ECU) so that the Factory immobilizer will not re activate. ?? It would probably only need .5 volts to keep it off but it would likely run the battery down with long term non use(nothing new with a F-car)

This is the only thing I can come up with. Or they used a new alarm speaker and cloned the factory remote somehow. The only thing is that the car did not act like a Ferrari alarm at all. It locked and unlocked immediately like a Ford vehicle. Ferrari sometimes has a delay to it and if you push the button too fast it will get confused. This car did not do that at all.

 

The alarm ECU is located under the panel right behind the driver’s seat.
http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=135906954&postcount=39

 

You have one?

 

...and if a solution is found in a public forum no Ferrari alarm system will have meaning any more. Cant say as I support this effort.

Wrong tact Riot. I have to clean up enough of these 'jobs' to speak intelligently about it. You are dealing with a CAN line system where even with a wiring diagram, proper computers / testers and an in depth knowledge of the systems you are running a very expensive risk. This is one of the very few jobs where I get paid every minute I have on a car in the shop. Cleaning up electrical gremlins caused by this type of thing is a horid task.
Back in the mid 90's I asked Ferrari to allow me to build a harness for the aftermarket industry to use as PROPER tap in points and they nixed the idea saying they wanted no part of supporting it in any manner. I now understand why, its a huge profit center for them selling new parts and chasing gremlins.

 

Dave, I agree with this comment. I suggested that any discussion about this topic be moved to the owners forum but my comment was ignored. Oh yea, I did a quick search and the ones who ignored aren't part of the owners forum ... Humm.

 

Engine ECU's software link to the immobilizer can be removed. On our 360 Challenge race cars we had the OEM ECUs reprogrammed to run a modified engine. At the same time this was done the immobilizer lock out function was removed from ECU software.

 

I totally agree but their system is such crap and owners are constantly loosing remotes, breaking remotes loosing PIN codes, selling cars to the next owner who does not have all the remotes or PIN codes, ECU swapped left/right when new alarm packs are placed thus killing that option again unless a new ECU is bought. Yup a profit center for Ferrari. I do not think they care for the owners if the cars are stolen. Pros thieves get right pass these things anyway. I think of finding a solution a service to owners not a disservice. While we may pursue this issue we may not be able to figure it out.